August 1999
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Nathan F Yospe
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Jon A. Lambert
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Marian Griffith
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Jeremy Music "Sterling"
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Cynbe ru Taren
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Matthew Mihaly
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Koster, Raph
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Laurel Fan
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Willowreed@aol.com
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Albert
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Koster, Raph
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Adam Wiggins
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Marian Griffith
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Marian Griffith
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Matthew Mihaly
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Adam Wiggins
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Matthew Mihaly
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Marian Griffith
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Marian Griffith
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Game design and gender: An interesting article Greg Miller
- question about tile-based games Chris Gray
- question about tile-based games Scott Boding
- question about tile-based games Jeremy Music "Sterling"
- question about tile-based games Katrina McClelan
- question about tile-based games Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- question about tile-based games Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- question about tile-based games Chris Gray
- question about tile-based games AR Schleicher
- question about tile-based games Wes Connell
- question about tile-based games AR Schleicher
- question about tile-based games Wes Connell
- Mud Census? Timothy O'Neill Dang
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Par Winzell
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Dr. Cat
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Par Winzell
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Wes Connell
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Colin Coghill
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Miroslav Silovic
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Mik Clarke
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Mik Clarke
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Wes Connell
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Ilya, SCC, Game Commando
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Ilya, SCC, Game Commando
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Koster, Raph
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Marian Griffith wrote:
> Part of the problem is that in muds there is only a single problem to be
> solved: combat. The variables to optimise are equally simple: +hit, +dam
> and speed. If you can balance those right you get what is the best char-
> acter in the long run. (Of course some muds may have systems that are
> more or less complicated). What if, as a player you had to worry about a
> lot more than just combat. Suppose that if you want to run a campaign it
> is important to bring soldiers along (non-players). These must be fed,
> armed, transported, and so on. Suddenly, as a player you have a lot more
> things to worry about and the local ecology is going to be -very- impor-
> tant all of a sudden.
Ok, I really hate this. If you're going to say this, then say "Part of the
problem in one-dimensional muds is that there is only a single problem to
be solved." Of course, complaining about a one-dimensional mud is a bit
redundant. We call ourselves a "mud" but player vs. monster combat has
never been the focus of the game, and player vs. player combat plays a
smaller and smaller role as more things get added. I recently added basic
(to be greatly expanded) military capabilities to cities, which force
cities to, over many rl weeks, expand themselves, fighting border wars,
etc. This, in turn, led to the Druid and other foresty types getting very
ticked off at the armies in their forests, and forming the Oakstone
council, with the power to really screw with anyone in forests. They are
clashing politically at the moment with a city that is located IN a
forest, and thus has to capture forest territory to expand (revenue is
gained by capturing territory). My point is that monster bashing (yawn)
was never the focus of the game, and combat itself is becoming
increasingly less important (though our players love our combat system,
which is to what you described above what Finnegans Wake is to Dick and
Jane). I just HATE being lumped in with stock muds, which are a joke,
creatively. They're still using the same model for gaming that they took
20 years ago from D&D. Please, have some respect for those of us who have
pushed muds just a bit beyond that sort of simplicity. Sorry if I appear
too hostile to stock muds, but quite honestly, I don't see why I should
feel any differently. If you were a painter, you'd have utter disdain for
a hack like Thomas Kinkaide (no matter how many people like the trash he
labels art), whose paintings are fundamentally just copies of every other
painting he's ever done. Only some of the details are different.
--matt
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- Designing fun sims. (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #142 - 4 msgs) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, SCC, Game Commando
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Colin Coghill
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, SCC, Game Commando
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Sellers, Michael
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Matthew Mihaly
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Koster, Raph
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Sellers, Michael
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, SCC, Game Commando
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, Game Commandos
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Jon A. Lambert
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Travis S. Casey
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Koster, Raph
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Koster, Raph
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Koster, Raph
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Travis S. Casey
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Travis S. Casey
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Travis Casey
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Robin Cloutman
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, Game Commandos
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Laurel Fan
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Mik Clarke
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Timothy O'Neill Dang
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Greg Miller
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, Game Commandos
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Travis S. Casey
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Chris Turner
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Chris Turner
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ilya, Game Commandos
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Greg Miller
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Greg Miller
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Eli Stevens {KiZurich}
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Adam Wiggins
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing J C Lawrence
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Wes Connell
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Greg Miller
- The Best Guy on the Mud Thing Dundee
- Balancing issues (renamed) Marian Griffith
- Singleton design pattern (OT?) Eli Stevens {KiZurich}
- Singleton design pattern (OT?) Wayne Pearson
- Singleton design pattern (OT?) Cynbe ru Taren
- Singleton design pattern (OT?) Adam Wiggins
- OT: My absence J C Lawrence
- ScryMUD: News update (Opening to the Public on the 4th of September!) Ben Greear