September 2003
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Jim Purbrick
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks J C Lawrence
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Bruce Mitchener
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Jim Purbrick
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Bruce Mitchener
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks J C Lawrence
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Roy Riggs
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Jim Purbrick
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Sean Kelly
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Mike Shaver
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Eamonn O'Brien
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks ceo
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks ceo
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Lazarus
- [TECH] Server Bottlenecks Jeff Thompson
- [Tech] Garbage collection Brian Hook
- [Tech] Garbage collection Lars Duening
- [Tech] Garbage collection Bruce Mitchener
- [Tech] Garbage collection Jay Carlson
- TECH: Question about Bartle's new book Christer Enfors
- TECH: Question about Bartle's new book Richard A. Bartle
- Generating Cities John Arras
- Load Testing a MUD sszretter@hotmail.com
- Load Testing a MUD Ren Reynolds
- Load Testing a MUD Ben Greear
- Load Testing a MUD Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Load Testing a MUD Matthew D. Fuller
- Load Testing a MUD Marc Bowden
- Load Testing a MUD Lars Duening
- Load Testing a MUD Marc Bowden
- [DGN] Writing... a mud... erich-herz@uiowa.edu
- [DGN] Writing... a mud... Amanda Walker
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Yaka St.Aise
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Matt Mihaly
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Yaka St.Aise
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Michael Chui
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Amanda Walker
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Matthew Dobervich
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Justin Randall
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Yaka St.Aise
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Chris Duesing
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Crosbie Fitch
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Yaka St.Aise
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. John Buehler
- [DGN]: Ludicrous scheme. Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Corpheous Andrakin
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Scott Jennings
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matthew Dobervich
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Daniel Anderson
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Mike Shaver
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Daniel Stahl
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Tamzen Cannoy
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Mike Shaver
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? ceo
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Nathan Yospe
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Linder Support Team
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Marian Griffith
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Michael Chui
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Paul Schwanz
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? J C Lawrence
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Amanda Walker
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Jeff Cole
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Jeff Cole
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Amanda Walker
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Marian Griffith
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Jeff Cole
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Michael Chui
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Marian Griffith
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Jeff Cole
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? ceo
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? ceo
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Scott Jennings
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Daniel Anderson
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Scott Jennings
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? ren@aldermangroup.com
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Dave Rickey
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Baar - Lord of the Seven Suns
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Michael Chui
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ryan S. Dancey
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? John Buehler
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Dave Rickey
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Matt Mihaly
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Amanda Walker
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Amanda Walker
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Amanda Walker
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Marian Griffith
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Chris Mancil
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Zach Collins {Siege}
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ren Reynolds
- BIZ: Who owns my sword? Tamzen Cannoy
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Daniel Anderson
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Koster, Raph
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Scott Jennings
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Martin Bassie
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Chris Holko
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? burra@alum.rpi.edu
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Scott Jennings
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Daniel Anderson
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Matt Mihaly
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Threshold RPG
- Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever? Jason Smith
- MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 5 Jessica Mulligan
- [Tech] Functional languages Brian Hook
- [Tech] Functional languages ceo
- [Tech] Functional languages Brian Hook
- [Tech] Functional languages Kim
- [Tech] Functional languages J C Lawrence
- [Tech] Functional languages Joshua Judson Rosen
- [Tech] Functional languages sproctor@ccs.neu.edu
- SW:G Matt Mihaly
- Grief teaching? (Was: Why doesn't Lineage count asthe most pop burra@alum.rpi.edu
- Grief teaching? (Was: Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever?) ghovs
- Grief teaching? (Was: Why doesn't Lineage count as the most popular MMOG ever?) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- R: MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 5 Ghilardi Filippo
- Ghostmode (was: SW:G) Lars Duening
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- Ghostmode (was: SW:G) Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 5 Crosbie Fitch
- BIZ: Who holds your cahonas in their hand? (runs your infrastructure...; ) ceo
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Tess Lowe
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- ghost mode (was SW:G) Vladimir Cole
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Erik Bethke
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Erik Bethke
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Corpheous Andrakin
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Mike Shaver
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
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- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Vladimir Cole
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Lars Duening
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- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Lars Duening
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Marian Griffith
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Scott Moore
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Justin Coleman
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) David Cooksey
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Marian Griffith
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Rayzam
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Rayzam
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Marian Griffith
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Rayzam
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Corpheous Andrakin
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Spot
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Acius
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Rayzam
- ghost mode (was SW:G) J C Lawrence
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Mike Shaver
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Smith, David {Lynchburg}
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Eli Stevens
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Rayzam
- ghost mode (was SW:G) John Buehler
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Vladimir Cole
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Mike Shaver
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Chris Duesing
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Michael Chui
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Yaka St.Aise
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Michael Chui
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Yaka St.Aise
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Xyrrus
- Ghost Mode Pat Ditterline
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and standard deviation) Crosbie Fitch
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and standard deviation) John Buehler
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Katie Lukas
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Paul Schwanz
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Amanda Walker
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and standard deviation) Crosbie Fitch
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Matt Mihaly
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and standard deviation) Kerry Fraser-Robinson
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and standard deviation) Torgny Bjers
- Player malleable worlds (was expected value and standard deviation) Chanur Silvarian
- Player malleable worlds (was expected value and standard deviation) Corpheous Andrakin
- Player malleable worlds (was expected value and sta ndard deviation) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value and sta ndard deviation) Sean Kelly
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value andstandard deviation) Richard
- ghost mode Tess Lowe
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Mike Shaver
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Vincent Archer
- ghost mode Tess Lowe
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Corey Crawford
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode ceo
- ghost mode Rayzam
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Rayzam
- ghost mode Tess Lowe
- ghost mode David Cooksey
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Tess Lowe
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- ghost mode Matt Mihaly
- ghost mode Marian Griffith
- ghost mode Tess Lowe
- ghost mode Richard
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Draymoor {Philip Loguinov}
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Bo Zimmerman
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Frank Crowell
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Crosbie Fitch
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments J C Lawrence
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Crosbie Fitch
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments J C Lawrence
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Crosbie Fitch
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments J C Lawrence
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments J C Lawrence
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Paolo Piselli
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- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments J C Lawrence
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Crosbie Fitch
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments ceo
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Crosbie Fitch
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Pat Ditterline
- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Brent P. Newhall
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- Seamlessly Distributed Online Environments Sean Kelly
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Vladimir Cole
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Amanda Walker
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Derek Licciardi
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Amanda Walker
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Samurai Cat @ Catacombs
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) David Loving
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Samurai Cat! @ Catacombs
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Walton, Gordon
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) David Kennerly
- Rewarding Beta Testers (There's Pricing Deal) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- variable difficulty levels (was: ghost mode) Corey Crawford
- variable difficulty levels (was: ghost mode) David Snyder
- variable difficulty levels (was: ghost mode) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- variable difficulty levels (was: ghost mode) Michael Tresca
- ghost mode Amanda Walker
- Player malleable worlds (was Expected value andstandard deviation) Ren Reynolds
- R: BIZ: Who owns my sword? Ghilardi Filippo
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Chanur Silvarian
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Joshua Uyehara
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Lars Duening
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Rayzam
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Brian Hook
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? J C Lawrence
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Matt Mihaly
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Zach Collins {Siege}
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Matt Mihaly
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Matt Mihaly
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Sheela Caur'Lir
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Lee Sheldon
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? David Cooksey
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Lee Sheldon
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Rayzam
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Kwon J. Ekstrom
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Ben Chambers
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Russ Whiteman
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Ben Chambers
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Russ Whiteman
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Amanda Walker
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Derek Licciardi
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Chanur Silvarian
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Mike Shaver
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Sheela Caur'Lir
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Amanda Walker
- DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Chanur Silvarian
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Crosbie Fitch
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- play styles and difficulty settings ceo
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- Meta-games (not META list ;)) ceo
- [DGN]: Ludicrous speed. Yaka St.Aise
- variable difficulty levels Matt Mihaly
- ghost mode (was SW:G) Amanda Walker
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- [list] DGN: Why give the players all the numbers? Marian Griffith
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- ghost mode ceo
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- A Theory of Fun Paul Schwanz
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- A world without charity Eamonn O'Brien
- A world without charity Corpheous Andrakin
--- Eamonn O'Brien <decado@esatclear.ie> wrote:
> All this talk of who owns whos sword and ebay trading lately got
> me thinking, and so I started to wonder why players can trade
> items for money, and the answer is simple, because in game
> mechanics generally allow you to hand an item over to a player and
> to recieve nothing in return, an act of charity. So this got me
> thinking, if the game prevented acts of charity such that all you
> could do with an item was junk it (i.e. remove it from the game
> world, not drop it) or trade it for an equally valuable item what
> would this do to the game world?
Uh oh...
> Item values could be assigned on a simple scale, 0 junk to 10
> godly. Once it was mostly accurate it could be tweaked once the
> game was running by moving items which proved to be more valuable
> up 1 notch on the scale, which is basically a boost to the item
> since it becomes more valuable so no nerf cries should be heard
> (items valued too highly should not be a problem, a poor item
> rated at 4 instead of 3 will not damage the trade system since it
> will be lesser than all items it could be traded with, which
> should not damage the game, at worst it becomes a trade token
> within that value bracket). As long as relative pop rates for the
> items were similar (which presumably they should be for equally
> powerful items) so that there is no easy pop item to trade for a
> very rare item of similar worth then it should become very
> difficult for any out of game trading to occur. Players would be
> less likely to hand over cash for an item if the game required
> them to hand over an equally powerful item with the trade
> anyway. Also when the expansion comes out with bigger better
> items, you can just expand the value scale up to 12 and rank the
> new items accordingly. As long as you keep relatively few
> classifications to prevent making trading impractical it should
> work.
So according to your system, I can't hand over MULTIPLE items of a
lower value just because you have a slightly higher ranked item?
What if I wanted to trade three Level 4 quality gems for your Level
6 quality sword? You may as well make it a single player game,
that's half the fun, arguing over prices and trying to get the best
price possible for your item or get the best deal possible from the
other person. The only thing I can possibly see that this does
beneficially is control the economy so you can prevent inflation.
> If you want to allow newbies to be helped, then you can easily
> permit free trade of the lowest grades of items.
So newbies can't get anything other than the crappiest of items?
Great, so no working up for that special quest sword or beating the
boss monster on the lowest level of the dungeon. What can they use?
Up to rank level 5 items? Why not just give them a stick and go
tell them to kill a Gnoll King?
> This system could solve several problems:
> 1. Twinking. Since you cannot give items to your newbies until
> they find equally useful items, twinking becomes a much more
> restricted option.
I gurantee the newbies will still have the "best" equipment they can
possibly equip if they're in a good guild.
> 2. Muling. Without the ability to freely transfer items, mules
> become much more difficult to manage, which should reduce server
> space used for mules. (Note I dont doubt players will still
> hoard items, but since presumably you have some sort of item
> limit per player this should end up fairly limited). I would
> certainly imagine it would be a better situation all round.
Muling is a lot more uncommon than most people think, it's not some
rampant disease that has to be stamped out. It really doesn't hurt
the economy because transfering an item to another player doesn't
hurt most economies. Someone had to get that item in the first
place remember.
> 3. Account Trading. Since getting a high level, well equipped
> account is harder, it should reduce the tendancy to trade them,
> though conversely this may make accounts more valuable. How do
> full account trades generally work? I imagine it is either a
> full transfer of billing information (which should be easily
> preventable by the operators, just make sure you are always
> billing the same person for the same account), or just a
> transfer of the password to have the player transfer all the
> items to their own chars which would become very difficult under
> the above system.
Nope, this one should go down under the problems, account prices
would SOAR. Everyone go to Ebay and type in "DAOC" (without the
quotes) for a search. You'll find about 700+ things up for
sale. Almost 90% of the stuff there is characters and in game money.
Why? Item restriction uses...BAM. In DAOC items have levels and if
your not high enough the item is purple to you and would break in
like 3 uses and as it gets higher above you may actually be WORSE
for you than an item of similar level. Which is why accounts are
sold instead, generally around $300.
> Problems with this system.
> 1. It prevents genuine acts of charity.
Taking charity out of a game is not cool, but that's an opinion.
> 2. It would be difficult to reconcile this with any craftsman
> classes. Craftsmen who created items would end up with a bunch
> of high level items that are presumably pretty useless to
> them. There are several ways this could be managed, allow
> craftsmen to melt the items to get components to build new items
> or something similar might work, though any trade-up cycle would
> obviously have to be carefully controlled to prevent the easy
> creation of trade items, conversely if craftsmen was the only
> way to allow for trading up then it would make those classes a
> lot more useful in game.
You could work this out in a number of recycling fashions, it may
actually improve a want for the lower level items but putting
different restrictions on items makes more sense to me than not
allowing X item to be traded for Y because they have a different
rank.
> 3. It reduces the use for gold in game (oh no, i hear you cry,
> my 10 billion gold coins, now useless).
Wait a minute, why is gold useless? I thought that might be the
savoir of your idea, where you put a price on how much the item was
worth and you'd have to trade that amount to get it from another
player. Without that, gold has NO use in your game much less
someones "10 billion coins".
> 4. It is a little clunky. Values have to be a bit arbitrary.
Players will complain...a LOT about how one sword is better than
another sword and why does the suckier sword have a higher value
than the good sword? The balance issues and the testing that would
HAVE to go into this boggles the mind. I know of no game that was
tested this throughly.
> 5. Players will complain when they cant trade so come up with
> some backstory nonsense about why items refuse to be just handed
> over.
So give the player a bunch of BS as to why they can't do something?
Players don't stand for that just so you know. I wouldn't just quit
your game, I'd boycott it.
> 6. You may have to make some sort of group loot system (let your
> players bid with all that gold they no longer need) or the
> grabber will not be able to give over the item.
So for every single loot drop you have to roll on an item ala a
Dragon Kill Point system/Tarasque system? What if there's multiple
mobs, and the window for loot rolling pops up? What if someone who
doesn't need the item at all just throws money at it to piss you
off? Meh, this last one isn't that bad of a suggestion, it does
have upsides.
> Anyone think this could work, and more importantly can anyone tell
> me why it wouldnt work?
Well, besides the fact that you seemed to have turned the game into
a single player adventure and taken out a major part of the
interactive community...yes. You wreak havoc on a tried and true
trade system which to this point has no problem.
This is to all the game developers who are in a game now or in the
process of making one. Players WILL sell your items on Ebay if it's
popular. As shown time and again with EQ and AO, no matter what you
do, players will always find a way to do it and will continue to do
it even if you threaten death on a stick. They don't give up, which
is not to say that you should if you can REALLY PROVE with actual
numbers that it's hurting your game. I'm all for ya' if it is, but
if it's not, why keep coming up with all these wacked out methods
that cost moola which could be used for more beneficial things like
marketting and development tools and new hardware? *cough* and
parties *cough*.
I just hate to see the developer community turn into a pack of
ravenous dogs trying to chew off an arm that still plays and pays
with the rest of the community. :)
-Lee
====Corpheous - A world without charity Eamonn O'Brien
- A world without charity Marian Griffith
- A world without charity Matt Mihaly
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