June 2003
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- MMO Launch issues ruining potential segments of th e market. Jeff Fuller
- MMO Launch issues ruining potential segments of the market. Matt Mihaly
- MMO Launch issues ruining potential segments of the market. Luca Girardo
- New Column by Dave Rickey "Engines of Creation" Now at Skotos Christopher Allen
- Announcing Shadow Door: an NPC Control Interface for Neverwinter Nights Robert Zubek
- ADMIN: So, what has been happening? J C Lawrence
- [Meta] Forward of moderated message J C Lawrence
- New Here MIKE MacMartin
- Looking for a GUI Mud Development program Snicker Furfoot
- Looking for a GUI Mud Development program Ben Greear
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- The Price of Being Male Rayzam
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- The Price of Being Male Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- The Price of Being Male Rayzam
- The Price of Being Male Byron Ellacott
- The Price of Being Male Dr. Cat
- The Price of Being Male Castronova, Edward
- The Price of Being Male Boyle, Paul
- The Price of Being Male Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
- The Price of Being Male Rayzam
- The Price of Being Male Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
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- The Price of Being Male Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
- The Price of Being Male Marian Griffith
- The Price of Being Male Paul Schwanz
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- The Price of Being Male Vincent Archer
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- The Price of Being Male Castronova, Edward
- The Price of Being Male Sasha Hart
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- The Price of Being Male Amanda Walker
- The Price of Being Male Richard A. Bartle
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- The Price of Being Male Richard A. Bartle
- The Price of Being Male Castronova, Edward
- The Price of Being Male Richard A. Bartle
- The Price of Being Male Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- The Price of Being Male Paul Schwanz
- The Price of Being Male Daniel Anderson
- The Price of Being Male Travis Casey
- The Price of Being Male Paul Schwanz
- The Price of Being Male Travis Casey
Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 1:43:47 PM, Paul Schwanz wrote:
> Travis Casey wrote:
>> On Monday 30 June 2003 14:33, Daniel Anderson wrote:
>>> From: Edward Castronova
>>>> I suppose everyone thinks its normal and OK that being a man in
>>>> a woman-suit is something that the average man is uncomfortable
>>>> with. I kind of think that's a problem.
>>> Why is that a problem? Virtual worlds emulate real worlds in
>>> regards to social actions. So, according to that, one could
>>> conclude "cross-dressing" (I use cross-dressing loosely here,
>>> because it isn't exactly cross-dressing, but rather entirely
>>> pretending to be a different sex in a virtual world.) would also
>>> be shunned in a virtual world.
>> On the other hand, pretending that one is a klingon, elf, knight,
>> wizard, vulcan, etc. will make most people uncomfortable around
>> you in the real world -- but these things are generally perfectly
>> acceptable in many virtual worlds.
>> So the question is: why is it more OK playing, say, Everquest,
>> for me to pretend I'm a *male* elven wizard instead of a female
>> one?
> Because each player has his/her own limits on how comfortable they
> feel in moving away from the norm? For most, I imagine it will be
> OK playing in a world that has magic forces at work, yet for many
> of these it would be uncomfortable playing in a world without
> gravity.
> Wasn't there speculation on this list (a few years back) that
> Atriarch might have trouble drawing players who could connect to
> their alien species? Personally, I found myself more drawn to
> play those species that were more humanoid in appearance. Does
> that make me a xenophobe or perhaps just not a very imaginative
> human?
I think you may have misunderstood me; I'm specifically asking why
it's considered (by others) to be less OK for *me* to play a female.
Not why others might not want to play a female.
> Incidentally, Atrairch planned (plans?) to have non-gendered
> characters. I personally thought this was going to be quite a
> challenge to pull off, since I suspected that most players would
> quickly fall into the habit of using gender-based pronouns and
> would feel uncomfortable doing otherwise. I also suspected that
> many players would present themselves as a particular gender
> despite any fiction to the contrary. Despite the challenges,
> however, I still think it sounds like an interesting sort of
> experiment.
In a regular open-entry game, you're likely right. However, I think
that it could work in an entry-by-application sort of setup, such as
some MUSHes and similar games have.
--
Travis Casey
efindel@earthlink.net
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- SW:G this is so unfair Marian Griffith
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- Players policing themselves (was: MMO Launch issues ruining potential segments of themarket.) Derek Licciardi
- Q&A with Ken Troop, Lead Designer at Turbine Michael Tresca
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