November 2005
- Computer Security for MMOs and Online Games Greg B
- Discussion of MUD system design, development, and implementation Chris Duesing
- Commentary on Recent PlayOn Blog Social Cohesion Christopher Allen
- quest engine design documents? Johnicholas Hines
- Effort to produce a quest Mike Rozak
- Effort to produce a quest Ghilardi Filippo
- Effort to produce a quest Mike Rozak
- Effort to produce a quest Kiztent
- Effort to produce a quest Vincent Archer
- Effort to produce a quest Damion Schubert
- Effort to produce a quest Mike Rozak
- Effort to produce a quest Damion Schubert
- Effort to produce a quest Mike Rozak
- Effort to produce a quest Randolf Richardson
- Effort to produce a quest Lachek Butalek
- DGN: Starting with Nothing (Requests for Resources) Sarah Bonner
- DGN: Starting with Nothing (Requests for Resources) lwl@black-knight.org (Lydia Leong)
- DGN: Starting with Nothing (Requests for Resources) Otis Viles
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? John Mauney
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? Sean Howard
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? Sam Pointon
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? John Mauney
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? justice@softhome.net
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? Lachek Butalek
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? lwl@black-knight.org (Lydia Leong)
- Text MUDs; in need of an (r)evolution? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs CHRISTOPHER LLOYD
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs cruise
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs lwl@black-knight.org (Lydia Leong)
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs Mike Rozak
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Roger Hicks
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains cruise
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Lydia Leong
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Dave Mitchell
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Lost
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Lachek Butalek
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Lost
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains lwl@black-knight.org (Lydia Leong)
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains jack fredricks
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Mike Rozak
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Arnau Josep Rosselló Castelló
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains Damien Neil
- Dynamic Quests & Event Chains ceo
- DESIGN: Personal NPCs cruise
Christopher Lloyd spake thusly...
It depends how much freedom you want your players to
> have. If I was an evil character, I might just want to butcher the
> old man and go off to kill the girl in her cell, and be expected to
> be rewarded for it.
Lydia Leong spake thusly...
> But I want to ask: How does one reduce or eliminate the treadmill,
> rather than just trying to cleverly disguise it?
I'm going to answer these two together, since the answer is the same
for both.
Why give additional rewards for performing actions that the player
should want to do anyway? If someone is evil, and they want slay the
NPC's, then fine, they can slay them. But the reason for slaying
them should be because they're evil - not because it gives them 5%
to the next level. PnP RPG's had to have numerical "levels" to
represent player advancement since there was no other easy mechanic
for reflecting it. Within a computer game, however, we have a
multitude of ways for players to cast spells, fight monsters,
etc. We don't have to rely on dice rolls and arbitary "levels" to
express the aracter skill anymore - we can use the player
skill. Imagine an RPG that used the combat mechanics from Tekken,
for example. Severance: Blade of Darkness was a good example of a
step in the right direction, though it didn't abandon the levels and
stats completely.
> Should you get experience for killing something, no matter how
> weak? Perhaps you should get negative experience for killing a
> 'good' aligned NPC if you are 'good' yourself. Or more xp if you
> kill something evil. Either way, it's probavbly even more of a
> reason to keep your character neutral so that you have a wider
> variety of targets to choose from.
> Personally, I don't like the whole good/evil alignment thing, but
> it's a reasonable way to demonstrate the point.
> This is also why a linear alignment system falls down - It's often
> fairly wasy to switch to the other end of the scale. Baldur's Gate
> had a particularily good system whereby a Paladin or Ranger's
> special skills would be permenantly cost if his/her reputation
> fell below the neutral level. It's a shame that this only worked
> for two classes, though.
The mechanics of an RPG should be to help the player /play a role/ -
the only role current CRPG's help the player with is cold merciless
killer.
> So if the player regularly rescues things/people, you'd want them
> to bump into a character that needs something rescuing. I like
> it. May I ask how many NPCs per active player you were thinking of
> having at any one time? Would one NPC be providing custom quests
> for several people? Perhaps in this case, an NPC guildmaster or
> tutor would make a sensible option.
The initial implementation will apply the personalities to the
various guilds and orginisations - members of them are assumed to
have similar personalities. This is more to limit CPU load than
anything. Guilds have different reactions to each other, and react
to the player and offer quests based on the player's memberships,
and their current relationships with other groups.
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[ cruise / casual-tempest.net / transference.org ]
"quantam sufficit" - DESIGN: Personal NPCs Jaycen Rigger
- (no subject) Koster, Raph
- Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) cruise
- Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Lachek Butalek
- MMO a temporary phenomenon? John Buehler
- Sexism in design lwl@black-knight.org (Lydia Leong)
- Sexism in design Marc Bowden
- Sexism in design Louis d'Ambra
- Sexism in design Sean Kelly
- Sexism in design Amanda Walker
- Value Brian "Ayavaron" Ross
- Griefing Brian "Ayavaron" Ross
- RE : Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Jean, Yannick
- RE : Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Marc Bowden
- RE : Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Lost
- RE : Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Damion Schubert
- RE : Removing the Massively from MMOG (long) Lachek Butalek
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Sean Howard
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look)
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Sean Howard
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Caliban Darklock
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Sean Howard
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Ryan S. Dancey
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Jeffrey Kesselman
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Ken Sewell
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Sean Howard
- Changing Midstream (SWG's New Look) Joe Ludwig
- Discussion of MUD system design, development, and implementation Chris Duesing