May 2001

• Clean Code (was:TECH: reliablity) Dave Rickey
• neat game Matt Mihaly
• • neat game Adam Martin
• Logical MUD Areas Lynx
• • Logical MUD Areas Scion Altera
  • • Logical MUD Areas Ryan P.
    • Logical MUD Areas Elia Morling
    • Logical MUD Areas Greg Munt
    • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
      • • Logical MUD Areas Brad Triem
        • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
          • • Logical MUD Areas Brad Triem
            • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
              • Logical MUD Areas Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
              • • Logical MUD Areas Brad Triem
                • • Logical MUD Areas Koster, Raph
                  • • Logical MUD Areas Adam Martin
                    • Logical MUD Areas Marian Griffith
                    • • Logical MUD Areas Phillip Lenhardt
                      • • Logical MUD Areas Michael Tresca
            • Logical MUD Areas Kevin Littlejohn
            • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
            • Logical MUD Areas SeronisROTv3@aol.com
        • Logical MUD Areas Greg Munt
        • • Logical MUD Areas Matt Mihaly
          • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
          • • Logical MUD Areas Kevin Littlejohn
            • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
              • • Logical MUD Areas Eli Stevens
                • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
                  • • Logical MUD Areas S. Patrick Gallaty
                    • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
                      • • Logical MUD Areas Jon Lambert
                        • • Logical MUD Areas Matt Mihaly
                          • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
                        • Logical MUD Areas Scion Altera
                        • • Logical MUD Areas Adam Martin
                    • Logical MUD Areas Kevin Littlejohn
                    • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
                      • • Logical MUD Areas Kevin Littlejohn
                        • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
                          • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
        • Logical MUD Areas Adam Martin
        • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
          • Logical MUD Areas Ryan P.
          • Logical MUD Areas Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • Logical MUD Areas Derek Licciardi
        • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
          • • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
            • • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
              • • Logical MUD Areas Brad Triem
                • Logical MUD Areas Jon Lambert
                • • Logical MUD Areas Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
            • Logical MUD Areas Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • Logical MUD Areas Scion Altera
      • • Logical MUD Areas Michael Stoddart
        • Logical MUD Areas Greg Munt
        • • Logical MUD Areas Mathue Moyer
      • Logical MUD Areas Kwon Ekstrom
  • Logical MUD Areas Chuk Radder
  • • Logical MUD Areas Scion Altera
    • • Logical MUD Areas Chuk Radder
  • Logical MUD Areas Triem, Brad
  • • Logical MUD Areas shren
    • Logical MUD Areas Kevin Littlejohn
    • • Logical MUD Areas Brian Hook
      • • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
        • • Logical MUD Areas Brian Hook
          • • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
          • Logical MUD Areas John Buehler
          • Logical MUD Areas Ryan P.
          • • Logical MUD Areas Eli Stevens
      • Logical MUD Areas Brad Triem
      • • Logical MUD Areas shren
        • Logical MUD Areas Travis Nixon
        • Logical MUD Areas Derek Licciardi
  • Logical MUD Areas Andrew McLaren
  • • Logical MUD Areas Hulbert, Leland
  • Logical MUD Areas Malcolm Tester
  • Logical MUD Areas Greg Munt
• Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Brian 'Psychochild' Green
• • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Koster, Raph
  • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Jon Morrow
    • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Greg Munt
      • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) shren
        • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Greg Munt
          • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Adam Martin
            • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) shren
              • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Bruce
                • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) shren
        • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Jon Morrow
        • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Chris Gray
  • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Matt Mihaly
  • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Brian 'Psychochild' Green
    • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Richard A. Bartle
      • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Koster, Raph
    • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
    • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Matt Mihaly
      • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Koster, Raph
      • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Derek Licciardi
        • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
        • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Luke Carruthers
  • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Dave Rickey
  • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) Dave Rickey
      • • Information sharing (was: Where are we now?) John Buehler
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Batir
• • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Auli
  • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] S. Patrick Gallaty
    • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] John Buehler
    • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Auli
      • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] John Buehler
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Martin Burke
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] John Buehler
    • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Martin Burke
    • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Auli
      • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Batir
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Vincent Archer
          • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Auli
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game des igners] Koster, Raph
            • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Madman Across the Water
              • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Travis Nixon
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Vincent Archer
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Vincent Archer
            • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
              • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] asnellin@san.rr.com
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Dave Rickey
            • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
    • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers] Eli Stevens
  • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game des igners] Koster, Raph
• [biz] Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle Frank Crowell
• • [biz] Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle Baron, Jonathan
  • • [biz] Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle Travis Nixon
  • [biz] Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle shren
  • • [biz] Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle Adam Martin
• TECH: Distributed Muds asnellin@san.rr.com
• • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
  • • TECH: Distributed Muds asnellin@san.rr.com
    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds Adam Martin
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
          • TECH: Distributed Muds Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Matt Chatterley
        • TECH: Distributed Muds asnellin@san.rr.com
        • • TECH: Distributed Muds shren
          • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds asnellin@san.rr.com
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
              • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
• Request to mailing list MUD-Dev rejected David Loeser
• • Request to mailing list MUD-Dev rejected Derek Licciardi
• The Four Hour Alchemist J C Lawrence
• • The Four Hour Alchemist Brad Triem
  • • The Four Hour Alchemist Batir
• TECH: non-integral integral types Nathan F.Yospe
• Necessary Stability (was: Logical MUD Areas) Scion Altera
• • Necessary Stability (was: Logical MUD Areas) Vincent Archer
• MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #335 - 25 msgs Jessica Mulligan
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Auli
• • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Sie Ming
  • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Auli
  • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Batir
  • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Madrona Tree
    • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Sie Ming
      • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Madrona Tree
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Nathan F.Yospe
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Adam Martin
            • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game J C Lawrence
              • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Nathan F.Yospe
              • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Nathan F.Yospe
          • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Adam Martin
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Brian Hook
            • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game rayzam
            • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Batir
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Freeman, Jeff
        • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Luke Carruthers
          • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Freeman, Jeff
        • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game shren
      • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Marian Griffith
      • • I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Madrona Tree
• Worlds targets EQ in its patent battle Jessica Mulligan
• Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Greg Munt
• • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
  • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) John Buehler
    • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
      • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) John Buehler
        • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
          • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Tchrin .
            • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
              • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Corey Crawford
                  • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                  • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
                  • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                    • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
        • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Travis Nixon
    • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Matt Mihaly
    • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
      • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Matt Mihaly
        • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) SeronisROTv3@aol.com
          • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Koster, Raph
            • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Richard A. Bartle
            • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Jesse van Herk
            • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Matt Mihaly
            • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Vincent Archer
            • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Nathan F.Yospe
            • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) SeronisROTv3@aol.com
              • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) J C Lawrence
              • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
        • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Lars Duening
  • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Jeremy Noetzelman
  • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) rayzam
    • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Matt Mihaly
    • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Jeremy Noetzelman
  • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Ben Sizer
  • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Koster, Raph
    • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Ben Sizer
      • • Innovation restrictions (was: Information sharing) Koster, Raph
• OOC functionality (was: I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers]) Greg Munt
• • OOC functionality (was: I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers]) John Buehler
  • OOC functionality (was: I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game designers]) Auli
  • • OOC functionality (was: I Want to Forge Swords. [An other letter to game designers]) Hulbert, Leland
• Morality in Game Design (was: Logical MUD Areas) Scion Altera
• • Morality in Game Design (was: Logical MUD Areas) John Buehler
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game Freeman, Jeff
• Innovation restrictions Corey Crawford
• • Innovation restrictions John Buehler
  • Innovation restrictions Richard A. Bartle
• Spaces or rooms? (Information sharing (was: Where are we now?)) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • Spaces or rooms? (Information sharing (was: Where are we now?)) Koster, Raph
• Immersiveness - good or bad? Adam Martin
• • Immersiveness - good or bad? John Buehler
  • • Immersiveness - good or bad? Matt Mihaly
  • Immersiveness - good or bad? Kwon Ekstrom
• Community Goals (was: I Want to Forge Swords.) Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
• • Community Goals (was: I Want to Forge Swords.) Eli Stevens
• The effects of object oriented servers on the item database Chambers
• • The effects of object oriented servers on the item database Bryce Harrington
  • • The effects of object oriented servers on the itemdatabase brianleeprice@hotmail.com
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game des Auli
• Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Sie Ming
• • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Hulbert, Leland
  • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Marian Griffith
  • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Phillip Lenhardt
    • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Derek Licciardi
      • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
        • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Koster, Raph
          • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
            • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Adam Martin
              • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Vincent Archer
                • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Andrew Barratt
                • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Adam Martin
                  • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Andrew Barratt
                • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Sw ords) Koster, Raph
            • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
            • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Matt Chatterley
        • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Alex Kay
        • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Brian Hook
          • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
            • • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Vincent Archer
            • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Alex Kay
          • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) rayzam
  • Locations vs Social Spaces (was: I Want to Forge Swords) Bruce
• [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems Bruce
• • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems Chris Gray
  • • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems Bruce
  • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems Adam Martin
  • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems brian price
  • • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems Bruce
    • • [TECH] monitoring RMI-type systems brianleeprice@hotmail.com
• MUDs, cellphones and mobile players... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • MUDs, cellphones and mobile players... Christopher Allen
• The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Derek Licciardi
• • The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Adam Martin
  • • The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Derek Licciardi
    • • The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Adam Martin
• The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Chambers
• • The effects of object oriented servers on the item database (Long) Neil Brown
  • The effects of object oriented servers on theitem database (Long) Adam Martin
• Black & White on Radio Timothy Dang
• [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Mathue Moyer
• • [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Derek Licciardi
  • • [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Madman Across the Water
    • • [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Derek Snider
      • • [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Lars Duening
  • [OT] Re-releasing old games w/ new graphics Adam Martin
• The ethics of violence thread J C Lawrence
• UO Volunteer Programs Closed AR Schleicher
• Spaces or rooms? (Information sharing (was: Re:Where are we now?)) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Greg Munt
• • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Freeman, Jeff
  • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Phillip Lenhardt
  • • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Bryce Harrington
  • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Bryce Harrington
  • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Kwon Ekstrom
  • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Adam Martin
  • • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Marc Hernandez
  • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Chambers
  • • User interface design [was: Where are we now?] Adam Martin
• It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] Greg Munt
• • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] F. Randall Farmer
  • • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] Matt Mihaly
    • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] Greg Munt
    • • It's just a game (?) [was: Information sharing] F. Randall Farmer
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game McManus, Susan
• I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game J C Lawrence
• [DGN] Moral responsibilities (was Logical MUD Areas) Mathue Moyer
• [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence brian price
• • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Derek Licciardi
    • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Bryce Harrington
      • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Gavin Doughtie
        • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Derek Licciardi
        • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Greg Munt
          • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Kwon Ekstrom
            • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Derek Licciardi
            • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Bruce
      • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Bruce
      • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Kwon Ekstrom
        • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Bruce
          • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Kwon Ekstrom
      • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Jared Nielsen
      • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence brian price
    • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence brian price
    • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence brian price
        • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Alex Kay
    • [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence Derek Licciardi
• Spaces or rooms? (Information sharing (was: Where are we now?)) Koster, Raph
• Characters or Pets? (I Want to Forge Swords. [Another letter to game) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• [Tech] Overlapped I/O Chambers
• • [Tech] Overlapped I/O Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• [MUD-Dev][DGN] encouraging quick-start community for newbies Adam Martin
• • [MUD-Dev][DGN] encouraging quick-start community for newbies rayzam
  • • [MUD-Dev][DGN] encouraging quick-start community for newbies Adam Martin
    • • [MUD-Dev][DGN] encouraging quick-start community for newbies rayzam
  • [MUD-Dev][DGN] encouraging quick-start community for newbies Scion Altera
• [OT] Taking things too far. Scott Stuart
• • [OT] Taking things too far. F. Randall Farmer
  • [OT] Taking things too far. Sayeed
  • [OT] Taking things too far. Frank Crowell
  • • [OT] Taking things too far. Matt Mihaly
    • • [OT] Taking things too far. Scott Stuart
      • • [OT] Taking things too far. John Buehler
        • • [OT] Taking things too far. Matt Mihaly
        • [OT] Taking things too far. Matt Mihaly
  • [OT] Taking things too far. Kevin Littlejohn
  • [OT] Taking things too far. rayzam
  • [OT] Taking things too far. Greg Munt
  • • [OT] Taking things too far. Scott Stuart
    • [OT] Taking things too far. Adam Martin
  • [OT] Taking things too far. F. Randall Farmer
  • • [OT] Taking things too far. Dave Rickey
    • • [OT] Taking things too far. John Buehler
      • • [OT] Taking things too far. Kwon Ekstrom
  • [OT] Taking things too far. Scott Roberts
• Multithreaded servers using objects Chambers
• • Multithreaded servers using objects David Loeser
  • • Multithreaded servers using objects Chambers
• Musashi's Unbelievably Long Rantings Koster, Raph
• Where were we then? Richard A. Bartle
• Emotional Responses to Traumatic Events (Was Logical Mud Areas) Peter Yu
• • Emotional Responses to Traumatic Events (Was Logical Mud Areas) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• [OT] Will this list survive? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • [OT] Will this list survive? Taylor
  • [OT] Will this list survive? Batir
• Emotional Responses to Traumatic Events (Was Logical Mud Areas) John W Pierce
• [Tech] MUDs, MORPGs, and Object Persistence [OT?] Adam Martin
• Emotional Responses to Traumatic Events Matt Mihaly
• MUD-DEv lists archives are currently broken claw@kanga.nu
• [BIZ] Randy's Resume F. Randall Farmer
• • [BIZ] Randy's Resume F. Randall Farmer
  • • [BIZ] Randy's Resume Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
• It's just a game (?) Trump
• WebServer fixed (kinda) J C Lawrence
• Player run reputation system Jussi 'Sulka' Haro
• • Player run reputation system lhulbert@hotmail.com
  • • Player run reputation system shren
    • • Player run reputation system Travis Casey
      • Player run reputation system Matt Mihaly
      • • Player run reputation system Koster, Raph
  • Player run reputation system John Buehler
  • Player run reputation system David Loeser
  • • Player run reputation system Sean Kelly
    • • Player run reputation system Koster, Raph
      • • Player run reputation system Sean Kelly
        • • Player run reputation system Koster, Raph
          • • Player run reputation system Sean K
            • Player run reputation system Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
        • • Player run reputation system Timothy Dang
          • • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
            • • Player run reputation system Geoffrey A. MacDougall
              • • Player run reputation system Timothy Dang
                • • Player run reputation system Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
                • • Player run reputation system Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                  • Player run reputation system John Hopson
                  • • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
                • Player run reputation system shren
                • • Player run reputation system Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • Player run reputation system Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • • Player run reputation system Ola Fosheim Grøstad
          • Player run reputation system Taylor
          • • Player run reputation system Valerio Santinelli
            • • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
              • • Player run reputation system Matt Mihaly
                • Player run reputation system Valerio Santinelli
                • • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
                  • • Player run reputation system J Todd Coleman
                    • • Player run reputation system Sean Kelly
                      • Player run reputation system Jon Lambert
                      • Player run reputation system Valerio Santinelli
                      • • Player run reputation system J Todd Coleman
                        • • Player run reputation system Phillip Lenhardt
                          • • Player run reputation system J Todd Coleman
                            • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
                      • Player run reputation system Trump
                      • • Player run reputation system J Todd Coleman
                        • • Player run reputation system McManus, Susan
                          • Player run reputation system Trump
                • Player run reputation system shren
                • • Player run reputation system Valerio Santinelli
                  • • Player run reputation system J C Lawrence
    • Player run reputation system Andrew Reisse
    • • Player run reputation system Koster, Raph
    • Player run reputation system Matt Mihaly
• [TECH] 2 papers on python in muds Bruce
• Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lose your balance. Dan Merillat
• • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lose your balance. wrenner@uiuc.edu
  • • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lose your balance. Dan Merillat
    • • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lose your balance. Dave Rickey
      • • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lo se your balance. Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lose your balance. Vincent Archer
    • • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lo se your balance. Andrew Barratt
      • • Asheron's Call: An example of how easy it is to lo se your balance. Vincent Archer
• DGN: shard growth patterns? mud-dev-admin@kanga.nu
• • DGN: shard growth patterns? J C Lawrence
  • DGN: shard growth patterns? Ray Cuadro
  • • DGN: shard growth patterns? rayzam
• Spaces or rooms? (Information sharing (was: Re:Wher are we now?)) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• [News] NCSoft + Richard Garriott Dave Kennerly
• • [News] NCSoft + Richard Garriott Dragoness
  • • [News] NCSoft + Richard Garriott Freeman, Jeff
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• Jeff's Rant: A World Full of Wheel-Makers Bruce
  An old list member, Jeff Kesselman wrote:
  
  http://www.javagaming.org/WeeklyRant/weeklyrant.html
  
  Thanks to Greg Munt for tossing this my way. :)
  
  I couldn't find a archival URL for this, so here it is in its entirety:
  
  === begin quote ==Jeff's Rant: A World Full of Wheel-Makers
  
  
  Since Chris has given us this chance to rant I thought I'd share my
  views on the industry as an ex game-programmer.
  
  Nothing frustrates me more then the amount of duplication of effort
  going on the in games industry. Its still true today that if you talk
  to most game developers they are convinced that their problems are
  somehow unique and that all their solutions are going to be better then
  anyone else's. Given all of this incredibly talented and creative effort
  you would think that the game industry would be full of wildly different
  products, yet if you walk around E3 you inevitably see a floor full of
  virtually identical product.
  
  What gives?
  
  In engineering in general there is a real tendency to towards NIH or
  "Not Invented Here" thinking. This is driven by the honest effort to do
  our best work on everything and the irrational fear that others haven't
  had the same drive. Guess what guys, **everyone** who is any good at
  all feels this way but you cannot possibly do your best effort on
  everything. You just don't have the time or resources.
  
  We can learn a lesson for the economists. In Paul Samuelson's
  Economics, 10th edition he provides a mathematical proof that even if I
  produce both bicycles and coat hangers cheaper then you do, if I produce
  bicycles cheaper then coat hangers and your produce coat hangers cheaper
  then bicycles, then we both win if we specialize in our locally maximal
  production and freely trade. I do the bicycles and you do the coat hangers.
  
  What does this have to do with us? The same math applies-- even if in a
  perfect world with an infinite amount of time you can do everything
  better then anyone else, in a fixed time effort you will get better
  results through specialization and trade. Given the complexity of
  modern games this kind of approach has never been as necessary as it is
  today. Creativity is being drowned in the sheer volume of work necessary
  to realize creative visions.
  
  The answer has been known for a long time, reuse of code and
  component-ware. Unfortunately the cards are all stacked against such
  approaches today. You would think that at least within a shop there
  would be code reuse. However my experiences in the industry suggest that
  this almost never happens. Why? Ironically the reason I've seen has
  nothing to do with engineering. It has to do with bookkeeping.
  
  The typical accounting model for game projects looks at each game
  project individually as a profit/loss center. A given producer is
  responsible for tracking the costs of producing the game and seeing that
  it ultimately earns more then it cost to produce and market. A producer
  who consistently generates profit will do very well in the industry. A
  producer who produces a string of losses will soon be looking for a new
  job. As such it behooves the producer to keep his costs down.
  
  You might think that reusable code would reduce costs, and it would, but
  that code has to come from somewhere. Reusable code initially costs
  more to produce then one-off problem-specific hacks. There is no
  incentive in the system for the producer to spend a penny on future
  games, and every reason not too if it will impact his current game's
  budget. As a result, game engineers are directed and scheduled to
  produce only what is needed for the current project and not a line of
  code more. The reason is that there is no global accounting that credits
  people for doing work that helps the company produce multiple products.
  
  Some game companies attempt to solve this be creating separate "R&D" or
  "Tool" engineering groups. The role of these groups is to think further
  ahead then just the next game and produce technologies that will benefit
  many game projects. Unfortunately these groups still often fall prey to
  the balance sheet.
  
  I worked for one such group where where our operating budget was paid as
  a fixed charge to the budget sheets of all the in-house game projects.
  Inevitably when game projects ran over estimates and the producers
  started examining their budgets for ways to reduce costs, they wanted to
  know what we were doing for their immediate needs. The end result was
  that we were pushed to act as a direct extension of the game projects'
  engineering staff and all the strategic advantage of having our group
  were lost.
  
  The other way of budgeting such a group is to call it "overhead" like
  the lights and office space. This keeps the R&D group off of the game
  producers' balance sheets and out of their lien of fire. Unfortunately
  it moves the group directly into the line of fire of higher level
  executives trying to trim costs during downturns. Lights and office
  space they understand, but "R&D" sounds to these generally
  non-engineering types as a "frill" like free-soda and something that can
  be cut with even less complaints from those who "produce the real
  product." As the game industry is a boom/bust industry such downturns
  are inevitable and, once the forward planning has been eliminated it
  becomes very hard to bring it back into the system.
  
  So what are the solutions? If I had a 100% sure fire fix this would be
  an MBA thesis, not a rant. I do have some suggestions though:
  Stop thinking in terms of individual products and start thinking in
  terms of suites of products built on top of generic engines. I don't
  mean very game specific engines like the Quake engine, but rather game
  genre and or functional engines, such as Sierra Online used. (Very
  successfully, I might add, until they were bought out by someone who
  didn't understand their business model.)
  
  Fight the NIH complex. There are specialists out there who want to write
  components for us. Lets try to encourage that by looking for external
  solutions first and only engineering either the core unique parts of our
  games or places where the externally available components can't be
  reasonably made to fit. At times this may mean diverging slightly from
  our original game designs but the payoffs are well worth it.
  
  Industry Standards! The best way to encourage both the development and
  sue of component ware is through the development of industry standard
  APIs and data formats. These allow code to be easily separated while
  still communicating closely in the final application. Furthermore they
  reduce the risk of using third party components by providing the
  possibility of plug-replacing those that might not live up to our hopes
  or needs.
  
  Number One above is a change that has to happen in game production
  management. I'd call on those in such management positions to consider
  this and discuss it with your technical experts.
  
  By contrast Two and Three are things engineers can directly address and
  make happen. We ARE the technical experts and these are choices we can
  make or at least strongly encourage our management to make. A focus on
  Java API's for gaming seeks to address these very problems.
  ==== end quote ===
  Enjoy
  
  - Bruce
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