December 2009

• Meaningful Conseqences (was: Comparing Worlds) Eric Lee
• • Meaningful Conseqences (was: Comparing Worlds) Michael Chui
  • • Meaningful Conseqences cruise
    • Meaningful Conseqences (was: Comparing Worlds) Amanda Walker
  • Meaningful Conseqences (was: Comparing Worlds) John Arras
  • • Meaningful Conseqences cruise
  • Meaningful Conseqences cruise
  • Meaningful Conseqences (was: Comparing Worlds) John Buehler
  • • Meaningful Conseqences Christopher Lloyd
    • • Meaningful Conseqences John Buehler
      • Meaningful Conseqences Damion Schubert
      • • High Intensity [was: Meaningful Conseqences] cruise
        • • High Intensity [was: Meaningful Conseqences] Damion Schubert
          • • High Intensity [was: Meaningful Conseqences] Mikael Andersson
        • Meaningful Conseqences Matt Owen
        • • Meaningful Conseqences John Buehler
          • • Meaningful Conseqences Eric Lee
            • • Meaningful Conseqences Christopher Lloyd
              • • Meaningful Conseqences John Buehler
                • Meaningful Conseqences Damion Schubert
                • • Meaningful Conseqences Richard A. Bartle
          • Meaningful Conseqences Eric Lee
            Michael Chui wrote:
            >
            I don't quite understand this. WoW is just as "controlled" by long term
            players who are established and reliable components of a raid as EVE is
            "controlled" by long term players who have established themselves as
            fixtures in alliances. What's the difference?
            >
            
            The difference is that you can experience the vast majority of everything
            WoW has to offer merely by playing solo or with pick-up groups. Sure, you
            might not see some of the high-end raid content that way but that's not the
            core of the game.
            
            In Eve, on the other hand, you basically can't get out of the newbie area
            (high-sec space) without the protection and bankrolling of a large,
            established corp. It's difficult to start your own corp even in high-sec
            space without the backing of a larger patron corp because other corps can
            unilaterally declare war on you. In short, in Eve you either make friends
            with established players or you don't play. That's awesome if you're on the
            inside but it's tough if you're a new player.
            
            Eric
          • Meaningful Conseqences Michael Chui
          • • Meaningful Conseqences Kiztent
            • • Meaningful Conseqences Caliban Darklock
              • • Meaningful Conseqences Christopher Lloyd