September 2004

• Tuplespaces and MUDs J C Lawrence
• • Tuplespaces and MUDs Matt Cruikshank
  • • Dragon Empires is cancelled dienw
    • • Dragon Empires is cancelled ceo
      • • Dragon Empires is cancelled Jim Purbrick
      • Dragon Empires is cancelled OWEN, Matt, FM
      • • Dragon Empires is cancelled Alex Arnon
        • Dragon Empires is cancelled Dana V. Baldwin
      • Dragon Empires is cancelled Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) Michael Sellers
        • • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) Lee Sheldon
          • • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) Tamzen Cannoy
            • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) Damion Schubert
            • • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) Lee Sheldon
              • Room for more? (was Dragon Empires is cancelled) zgj22@drexel.edu
        • Dragon Empires is cancelled Jim Purbrick
    • Tuplespaces and MUDs Alex Arnon
  • Tuplespaces and MUDs Zach Collins (Siege)
  • Tuplespaces and MUDs ceo
  • Tuplespaces and MUDs Jim Purbrick
  • Tuplespaces and MUDs Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Out of Office AutoReply: Distributed State Systems John Borland
• "flat" power treadmill [was: Casual Crowd vs.Time Rich Crowd] HRose
• Cognitively Interesting Combat Mike Rozak
• DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?
• • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Douglas Goodall
  • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? John MacQueen
  • • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? HRose
    • • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? ceo
      • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Tim Schubert
    • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Damion Schubert
    • • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Mike Rozak
      • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiong was:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) William Leader
        • • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiong was:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) Alistair Milne
          • • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiongwas:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) John Buehler
            • • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiong James Turner
            • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiong was:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) Bruce Mitchener
            • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiong was:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) HRose
          • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitiongwas:(exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info?) John Buehler
        • DGN/TECH: exploiting/hacking in MMOGs - sources of info? Per Vognsen
• PHP Mud Jones, Channing
• • PHP Mud Chris
  • • PHP Mud ceo
    • PHP Mud Michael Tindal
  • Anyone remember this thesis? Scott Jennings
  • • Anyone remember this thesis? Paul Schwanz
• SOC Roll play vs. Role play Matthew Rick
  I've been thinking about the roll/role distinction a lot recently,
  and have come to a point where my mulling can no longer continue
  without some input from others.
  
  Basically, I'm stuck with the question:
  
  Bubba and Boffo are players in Mud/muck/moo/m*.
  
  For _whatever_ reason, Bubba and Boffo decide their characters do
  not like each other and end up in a duel.
  
  Bubba has been playing on the server for a long time and has been in
  many a duel, he's not necessarily the best dueler, but has a lot of
  experience (in game) doing it. Boffo on the other hand is a new
  player and does not.
  
  Who in their right mind would assume that Boffo could possibly win
  except through incredible luck (an unbelievably good roll)? I have
  seen this point argued a great deal (not necessarily on this list,
  but I am very interested in hearing what list members think), but
  have never read any compelling reason why a duel between these
  characters should be anything but a foregone conclusion.
  
  In fact, the only reason that I have _ever_ heard used to justify
  the notion that it should not, is that having the server determine
  results based on stats is "roll" playing (usually said in a derisive
  tone). Well and fine, but what then is "role" playing? Does not
  the role of a novice inherently imply that he would not be as
  skilled as someone who is an expert in a field?
  
  My specific questions (which are probably rhetorical, but even I
  can't be sure at the moment) are:
  
  1. Since Boffo is ultimately deciding how good his character is at
  dueling whether or not he gets to do so explicitly (ie whether he
  decides this by fighting a lot of duels and developing in game
  dueling skills, or through a mush like player created story) is
  the distinction between these systems a false one, if so, why is
  this distinction perceived by so many, and what ultimately draws
  so much derision from "role" players towards "roll" players?
  
  2. What, precisely, is the draw of a game with no rules (as I
  perceive mush/moo style games to be, if this is not the case, feel
  free to jump all over this and make me look like a fool, I don't
  mind, I'm used to it)?
  
  3. While I must admit that there is probably a lot of drama and
  intense roleplaying going on in the mush/moo environment, is it
  really that logical to assume that similar ammounts of tension do
  not exist in a mud as well (I can still vividly recall the details
  of some of the higher tension encounters I have had with several
  players in Aetolia especially Rofomagus (his underlings and mine
  clashed on several occasions and if my character could have been
  said to have an arch enemy it would certainly have been him,
  although I found the player to be a charming individual), even
  though I have not played that game in over two years now).
  
  I really must apologize if this has already been covered, but I have
  not finished reading all the archives (although I've been making a
  concerted effort to do so, but I think my boss at work may be
  starting to notice *grin*).
  
  Matthew P Rick
  
  PS Sorry for rambeling... the Aetolia comment is for Matt, as I
  never got the opportunity to thank him for the months of immensly
  enjoyable wastes of time his games have been.
• • SOC Roll play vs. Role play Zach Collins (Siege)
  • SOC Roll play vs. Role play darksuit
  • SOC Roll play vs. Role play richard@kavir.org
  • SOC Roll play vs. Role play Christopher Allen
• Fwd: Distributed State Systems Alex Arnon
• • Fwd: Distributed State Systems Michael Tindal
• Decision making... J C Lawrence
• • Decision making... Mike Rozak
  • • Decision making... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Decision making... Byron Ellacott
      • • Decision making... Rayzam
        • • Decision making... Matt Mihaly
          • • Decision making... Rayzam
          • Decision making... Mike Rozak
        • Decision making... Kalle
    • Decision making... Jason Messer
    • Decision making... Douglas Goodall
    • • Decision making... Mike Rozak
    • Decision making... Byron Ellacott
  • Decision making... Tess Lowe
  • Decision making... ceo
  • Decision making... Douglas Goodall
  • Decision making... David Kennerly
• Separating newbies and oldbies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • Separating newbies and oldbies HRose
  • • Separating newbies and oldbies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
• • Removing the almighty experience point... Adam Burr
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Middleditch
          • Removing the almighty experience point... Michael Hartman
          • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
        • Removing the almighty experience point... HRose
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • Removing the almighty experience point... HRose
            • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
              • • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Paul Schwanz
                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... asteroid@rocketmail.com
                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Byron Ellacott
                      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Kiztent Hatepriest
                        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Johan
                          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Kiztent Hatepriest
                            • Removing the almighty experience point... Amanda Walker
                            • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
                              • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ben Hawes
                                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Johan
                                  • Removing the almighty experience point... Johan
                                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ben Hawes
                                  • Removing the almighty experience point... Amanda Walker
                                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Kelly
                                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... John Buehler
                                    • Removing the almighty experience point... Damion Schubert
                                  • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                              • Removing the almighty experience point... Damion Schubert
                        • Removing the almighty experience point... Johan
                • Removing the almighty experience point... Travis Casey
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                  • • [SPAM] Removing the almighty experience point... Dana V. Baldwin
                    • • [SPAM] Removing the almighty experience point... J C Lawrence
                      • [SPAM] Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                      • • [SPAM] Removing the almighty experience point... Dana V. Baldwin
                    • Removing the almighty experience point... ceo
                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Dana V. Baldwin
                • Removing the almighty experience point... ceo
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Adam
                • Removing the almighty experience point... Bloo
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Kelly
                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Kelly
                        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                        • Removing the almighty experience point... Morgan Dodge
                        • Removing the almighty experience point... Douglas Goodall
                        • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
                        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ben Hawes
                          • Removing the almighty experience point... neild-mud@misago.org
                    • Removing the almighty experience point... Damion Schubert
                • Removing the almighty experience point... John Buehler
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... David Wright
                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
                      • • Removing the almighty experience point... David Wright
                    • Removing the almighty experience point... John Buehler
      • Removing the almighty experience point... Tim Schubert
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Devin Smoth
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... zgj22@drexel.edu
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Jason Messer
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Michael Hartman
          • • Dealing with lag (Removing the almighty experience point...) Jason Messer
  • Removing the almighty experience point... cruise
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Devin Smoth
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Devin Smoth
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Otis Viles
          • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
        • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... neild-mud@misago.org
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Middleditch
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... neild-mud@misago.org
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Middleditch
        • Removing the almighty experience point... richard@kavir.org
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Sean Middleditch
    • Removing the almighty experience point... Corey Cauble
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
    • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ben Hawes
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Brian Hook
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ben Hawes
            • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
          • Removing the almighty experience point... brian@thyer.net
          • Removing the almighty experience point... Bloo
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... ceo
            • • Removing the almighty experience point... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Removing the almighty experience point... richard@kavir.org
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Corey Crawford
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Freeman, Jeff
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... HRose
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Mike Shaver
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Mike Rozak
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Zach Collins (Siege)
    • Removing the almighty experience point... Vincent Archer
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Mike Rozak
    • Removing the almighty experience point... Will Jennings
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Travis Casey
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
        • Removing the almighty experience point... Damion Schubert
    • Removing the almighty experience point... P J
    • • [SPAM] Removing the almighty experience point... Dana V. Baldwin
  • Removing the almighty experience point... P J
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Will Jennings
  • Removing the almighty experience point... Mike Rozak
  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Amanda Walker
    • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
      • • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
        • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
          • • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
            • • Removing the almighty experience point... Mike Rozak
              • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
                  • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
                    • • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
              • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
              • • Removing the almighty experience point... Miroslav Silovic
                • • Removing the almighty experience point... Matt Mihaly
• Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Mike Rozak
• • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Chek Yang FOO
  • • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Corey Cauble
      • • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Damion Schubert
    • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Mike Rozak
    • • Griefer repellant (Was Decision making...) Chek Yang FOO
• State of Play Conference Invitation Noveck, Beth
• BIZ: Breaking the VW marketing model Mike Rozak
• Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) J C Lawrence
• • Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) Chris
  • • Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) Ren Reynolds
  • Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) zgj22@drexel.edu
  • • Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) Chek Yang FOO
    • • Has the circle gone rusty? (fwd) Paul Schwanz
• ClicheQuest J C Lawrence
• Putting the crawl to a halt David Johansson
• • Putting the crawl to a halt Vincent Archer
• Shift in time Brian Lindahl
• • Shift in time Peter A. Harkins
  • Shift in time Mike Rozak
  • • Shift in time Michael Sellers
    • Shift in time Arnau Rosselló Castelló
    • • Shift in time Robert Zubek
      • Shift in time Thomas Clive Richards
      • • Shift in time Mike Rozak
      • Shift in time Robert Zubek
      • Shift in time Amanda Walker
  • Shift in time Paolo Piselli
  • • Shift in time Damion Schubert
    • • Shift in time Paolo Piselli
      • • Shift in time Michael Sellers
  • Shift in time Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
  • • Shift in time Sunny Gulati
  • Shift in time Brian Lindahl
  • • Shift in time Matt Mihaly
    • • Shift in time Brian Lindahl
      • Shift in time Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Harlan Beverly
• • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Ben Greear
  • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Jay Moran
  • • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Harlan Beverly
    • • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Ben Greear
      • • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Harlan Beverly
      • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Jay Moran
      • • OpenTNL and DirectPlay (hardware acceleration) Harlan Beverly
        • • OpenTNL and DirectPlay (hardware acceleration) Brian Hook
          • OpenTNL and DirectPlay (hardware acceleration) Jeremy Noetzelman
          • • OpenTNL and DirectPlay (hardware acceleration) Harlan Beverly
          • OpenTNL and DirectPlay (hardware acceleration) Brett Bibby
        • BIZ: Gaming Hardware Startup, looking for good Gaming Business Development Person Harlan Beverly
        • • BIZ: Gaming Hardware Startup, looking for good Gaming Business Development Person
          • BIZ: Gaming Hardware Startup, looking for good Gaming Business Development Person Amanda Walker
          • • The Lag monster... Harlan Beverly
            • • The Lag monster... Matthew D. Fuller
              • The Lag monster... Kiztent Hatepriest
              • • The Lag monster... Kiztent Hatepriest
                • • The Lag monster... Sean Kelly
                  • • The Lag monster... Justin Randall
                    • • The Lag monster... Sean Kelly
                • The Lag monster... Harlan Beverly
              • The Lag monster... Amanda Walker
              • The Lag monster... lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
              • The Lag monster... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • TCP/UDP/IP Offload NIC for gamers? Byron Ellacott
• DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitioning William Leader
• • DGN/TECH: Implementing server side spatial partitioning Damion Schubert