July 2004

• [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Luca Girardo
• • [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Steven King
  • [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Luca Girardo
  • • [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled David Kennerly
    • • [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Derek Licciardi
• MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
• • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Par Winzell
  • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Dana V. Baldwin
      • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Luca Girardo
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Dana V. Baldwin
      • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
  • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Derek Licciardi
  • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Adam Burr
      • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        • • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Scott Macmillan
          • • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Douglas Goodall
            • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
            • • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Amanda Walker
              • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Scott Macmillan
              • • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
                • CoH Michael Hartman
                • • CoH cruise
                  • CoH Scott Macmillan
                  • CoH darksuit
            • CoH Michael Hartman
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ryan Shwayder
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
              • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
                • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Byron Ellacott
                  • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Koster, Raph
                    • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Brad McQuaid
                      • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
                        • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Dana V. Baldwin
                          • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
                            • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Zach Collins (Siege)
                              • • Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
                              • Instancing ceo
                              • • Instancing Douglas Goodall
                                • • Instancing ceo
          • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
              • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
              • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                • • Depth (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Damion Schubert
                  • • Depth (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
              • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
              • • CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Ghilardi Filippo
          • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
      • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Sellers
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Paul McInnes
    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Andres Ferraro
      • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
      • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ryan Shwayder
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
              • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
                • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                  • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Derek Licciardi
                    • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
                      • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Erik Bethke
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Koster, Raph
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Douglas Goodall
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
                      • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Sean Howard
                      • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Derek Licciardi
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) John MacQueen
                          • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Freeman, Jeff
                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
                          • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
                              On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 11:06, Sean Howard wrote:
                              > "Aaron Switzer" <aaron@neteffect.ca> wrote:
                              
                              >> Just because a community breaks down into smaller communities
                              >> doesn't mean that the larger community ceases to exist.
                              
                              > Of course not. It just means that the individual contributions
                              > matter less to the greater community than to the immediate
                              > one. The question is, as designers, is it more important to look
                              > at the immediate community of individuals, or the bigger picture
                              > of communities of communities? Or is it even worth that sort of
                              > organization, so we have ONE community of THOUSANDS?
                              
                              I agree that it would not be possible to have one community of
                              10,000 members without having any sub-communities.
                              
                              >> Yes, in every group or community sub-groups will form, but a lot
                              >> of the time that only serves to strengthen the larger community.
                              
                              > I don't think anyone is arguing that this is a bad thing. We are
                              > just disagreeing with the significance of it.
                              
                              In terms of MMOG design I would argue that it is very important to
                              make players feel that they are part of the top level community. If
                              too much effort is spent in helping players segment off into their
                              sub-communities, then there is less connection to the game itself
                              and therefore less holding that sub-community to the game. If a
                              guild feels no connection to the larger game community there will be
                              nothing to stop them from moving wholesale to a new game. On the
                              other hand if they feel that they have a real say in how the game
                              and the game's overall community is run, then they will have a
                              vested interest in sticking with the game, even if they have grown
                              tired of the game play. There are numerous personal accounts of
                              players that have all but given up on the game itself, but keep
                              playing every day in order to manage their in-game relationships and
                              other community "assets".
                              
                              >> I don't think that he was changing the subject here. The bond of
                              >> nationalism can be very strong, especially when the nation in
                              >> question is threatened in some way. And if the common act of
                              >> voting doesn't constitute a community then I don't know what
                              >> does.
                              
                              > It is because the bond of nationalism is so strong that I lack
                              > faith in people's ability to discuss it with rational coldness. I
                              > think there is a fascinating discussion there, but it is one I
                              > would have only with close friends.
                              
                              I still believe that nationalism is a valid addition to this
                              discusion, because people can get just as worked up about general
                              gameplay machanics and specific games. I think that there are a lot
                              of parallels between the connection people feel to their in-game
                              communities and nationalism.
                              
                              But having said that I can also understand your reluctance to
                              potentially muddy the waters with real-world politics.
                              
                              >> I'm curious about your allusion to "better social organization",
                              >> would something like Friendster allow for more scalable
                              >> communities in your eyes?
                              
                              > I am not familiar with Friendster. Assuming it is something like
                              > LiveJournal links, I think you'll find that communities still
                              > fraction - but more on degrees of separation than physical or
                              > topical separations.
                              
                              I was just curious about what you felt "better social organization"
                              would entail.
                              
                              >> Which doesn't take away from the fact that if one teamster were
                              >> to travel to another city and attend a meeting of another local
                              >> union that they would be greeted as a member. This to me is a
                              >> community.
                              
                              > He would still be a stranger to them. They would treat him with
                              > dignity and respect, but he would still be an outsider to them. If
                              > he went int here and started throwing his weight around, you'd see
                              > quite quickly how inclusive the community is.
                              
                              Point taken. But it does then bring up the topic of a person's
                              standing within a given community. If this fictional traveling
                              Teamster were a high-level member of the Teamster organization, then
                              the local union would most likely be lot more tolerant of said
                              traveler throwing his weight around.
                              
                              >> So even though you have broken that "community" into smaller
                              >> groups, those papers have not lost their common theme, and can
                              >> still be commonly refered to by that theme.
                              
                              > Communities can be made of smaller communities. I'm not convinced
                              > that communities can be made of 10,000 individuals though.
                              
                              I agree with you based on the idea that "community" == "people that
                              know each other personally".
                              
                              > I would not be above calling a "community" a social circle. But
                              > the matter of facts here is that there are communities of
                              > communities - circles made from smaller circles. It goes top to
                              > bottom. You can not have a small community that includes a large
                              > one. Boxes within boxes within boxes.
                              
                              > The only difference is that each leaf of the tree can be on
                              > multiple branches at the same time. It's quantum nature :) This
                              > complicates things because two people can be part of two separate
                              > communities, but they know each other personally, so... what's
                              > that mean to the bigger picture?
                              
                              > It may be better to think of each leaf as a community of
                              > individuals, rather than the individuals themselves.
                              
                              I think that this is a good analogy for a couple of reasons. Based
                              on what I said at the top of the email, the analogy shows the
                              importance of nurturing the top level community, ie. the tree
                              itself. And it also illustrates how complicated the situation gets
                              when you have tightly interconnected sub-communites.
                              
                              - Aaron Switzer
                            • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
                              • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
                                • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                                • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Koster, Raph
                                • • MMO Communities (was MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                                  • • MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Otis Viles
                                    • • MMO Communities (was RE:[MUD-Dev] MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                                      • • MMO Communities (was RE:MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Otis Viles
                                    • MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Michael Sellers
                                    • • MMO Communities (was RE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                                      • MMO Communities (was RE:[MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                                      • • MMO Communities (wasRE:[MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
                                  • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) ceo
                                  • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
                                  • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
                                    • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
                                      • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                                        • • MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
                                          • • MMO Communities (was RE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                                            • • MMO Communities (wasRE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
                                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) John Arras
                                          • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                                            • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                            • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) John Arras
                                              • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                                • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) cruise
                                                  • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                                  • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) John Arras
                                                  • • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Douglas Goodall
                                                    • • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Peter Keeler
                                                      • • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Otis Viles
                                                      • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Malcolm W. Tester II
                                                      • • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Matt Mihaly
                                                      • MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) cruise
                                          • MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
                                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                          • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Zach Collins (Siege)
                                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paolo Piselli
                                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                          • MMO Communities (was MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
                                      • forced grouping/coop play Tamzen Cannoy
                                      • • forced grouping/coop play Koster, Raph
                                        • • forced grouping/coop play Sean Kelly
                                  • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Andrew L. Tepper
                                  • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
                                  • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
                                    • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
                                      • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
                                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
                                          • • What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) ceo
                                            • • What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) HRose
                                              • • What is an MMOG? ceo
                                                • • What is an MMOG? HRose
                                                  • • What is an MMOG? Dana V. Baldwin
                                                    • • What is an MMOG? HRose
                                    • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
                                  • MMO Communities Eric Random
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Paul Schwanz
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
                      • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) J C Lawrence
                      • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                        • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Derek Licciardi
                        • • MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Theskyis falling?) Jon A. Lambert
                    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
                    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Tom "cro" Gordon
                      • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Thomas Tomiczek
                        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                      • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Douglas Goodall
          • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Scott Jennings
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Steven King
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
            • • The business of avatar worlds (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) F. Randall Farmer
              • • The business of avatar worlds (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Paul Schwanz
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? David Kennerly
            • • Words (WAS: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Zach Collins (Siege)
              • • Words (WAS: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) kennerly@finegamedesign.com
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? zgj22@drexel.edu
        • Is space deep? (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) David Kennerly
        • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Tony Hoyt
        • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Damion Schubert
          • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
            • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Samantha LeCraft
              • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Samantha LeCraft
                  • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
                    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
                  • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
                  • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Brian 'Psychochild' Green
                    • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
                      • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
                    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Kerry Fraser-Robinson
              • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Damion Schubert
              • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
            • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? J C Lawrence
  • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? David Kennerly
  • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Sellers
  • • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Luca Girardo
    • MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
• Sun Game Server Technology Chat Artur Biesiadowski
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              • • Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
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      • • Indie MMOG's ceo
        • • Indie MMOG's Rob C
          • • Indie MMOG's ceo
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                        • Better Combat HRose
                        • Better Combat Michael Hartman
                        • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
                          • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Michael Hartman
                            • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
                              • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Koster, Raph
                                • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
                                  • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] HRose
                                • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Michael Hartman
                                • • Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
                          • Better Combat Paul Schwanz
                          • • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                            • • Better Combat Darkwolf
                              • Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
                              • Better Combat Matt Mihaly
                              • Better Combat Koster, Raph
                              • • Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                                • • Better Combat HRose
                                • Better Combat Steven King
                                • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                                  • • Better Combat Paolo Piselli
                                    • • Better Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
                                    • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                                    • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                                      • Better Combat David Kennerly
                                      • Better Combat John Buehler
                                • Better Combat HRose
                                • • Better Combat Koster, Raph
                                  • • Better Combat HRose
                              • Better Combat (keywords: downtime, socialization, UI) Eric Random
                              • Better Combat Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
                            • Better Combat Amanda Walker
                          • Better Combat Yannick Jean
                          • Better Combat Yannick Jean
                        • Better Combat Tom "cro" Gordon
                        • Better Combat Alex Arnon
                      • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                      • • Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                        • • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                          • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                        • Better Combat Michael Hartman
                        • • Better Combat Douglas Goodall
                          • • Better Combat Michael Hartman
                            • • Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
                              • • Better Combat Michael Hartman
                                • • Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
                                  • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) Paolo Piselli
                                  • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Derek Larson
                                    • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
                                      • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Derek Larson
                                        • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
                                          • • Cognitively Interesting Combat cruise
                                            • • Cognitively Interesting Combat ceo
                                              • Cognitively Interesting Combat Byron Ellacott
                                              • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Ben Hawes
                                                • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Ben Hawes
                                                • Cognitively Interesting Combat KaVir@t-online.de (Richard Woolcock)
                                              • Cognitively Interesting Combat Mike Rozak
                                              • Cognitively Interesting Combat
                                              • Cognitively Interesting Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
                                              • • Cognitively Interesting Combat Peter A. Harkins
                                              • Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
                                    • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) cruise
                                    • • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) ceo
                                      • • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) David Kennerly
                                      • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) Paolo Piselli
                                      • • Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) cruise
                                • Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                              • [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) David Kennerly
                              • • [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Ryan Shwayder
                                • [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Ryan Shwayder
                                • [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Michael Hartman
                      • Better Combat Alex Arnon
                • Better Combat David Kennerly
                • • Better Combat John Buehler
                  • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                    • • Better Combat John Buehler
                • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] cruise
                • • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] John Buehler
                  • • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Matt Mihaly
                    • • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Otis Viles
                    • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Ben Hawes
                    • • Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] John Buehler
                      • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar [was: Long-Term Rewards] Michael Hartman
                        • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar [was:Long-Term Rewards] Vladimir Cole
                          • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Koster, Raph
                            • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Koster, Raph
                            • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPGavatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Michael Sellers
                          • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Corey Crawford
                          • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Byron Ellacott
                            • • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Vladimir Cole
                            • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
                          • Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Mark Mensch
      • Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
      • • Better Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
        • Better Combat David Kennerly
        • • Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
          • • Better Combat David Kennerly
            • • Better Combat cruise
              • • Better Combat David Kennerly
              • Better Combat Byron Ellacott
              • • Better Combat Craig Huber
                • • Better Combat Matt Mihaly
                  • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                    • • Better Combat Byron Ellacott
                      • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                  • Better Combat Byron Ellacott
                  • • Better Combat Paul Schwanz
                    • • Better Combat Michael Hartman
                • Better Combat David Kennerly
                • • Better Combat Matt Mihaly
                  • • Better Combat David Kennerly
                • Better Combat Eric Random
                • Better Combat Eric Random
          • Better Combat Corey Cauble
          • • Better Combat David Kennerly
            • • Better Combat Corey Cauble
            • Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
            • • Better Combat (long) Paul Schwanz
              • • Better Combat (long) Douglas Goodall
                • • [DGN] Music (was: Better Combat (long)) Zach Collins (Siege)
                  • Better Combat (long) Koster, Raph
                  • • Better Combat (long) Matthew Dobervich
                    • Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
                    • • Better Combat (long) Koster, Raph
                      • • Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
                    • Creating a Player Narrative Ben Hawes
                    • • Creating a Player Narrative Douglas Goodall
                      • • Creating a Player Narrative Tim Schubert
                      • Creating a Player Narrative Dana V. Baldwin
                      • • Creating a Player Narrative HRose
                        • • integrating information streams into the game (was: Creating a Player Narrative) ceo
                          • • integrating information streams into the game (was:Creating a Player Narrative) Damion Schubert
                          • Creating a Player Narrative Dana V. Baldwin
                      • Creating a Player Narrative John MacQueen
                      • • Creating a Player Narrative HRose
                • Better Combat (long) Matt Monaghan
                • Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
                • • Better Combat (long) Byron Ellacott
                  • • Better Combat (long) J C Lawrence
                    • • Better Combat (long) Freeman, Jeff
                    • Better Combat (long) cruise
                    • Better Combat (long) J C Lawrence
                    • • Better Combat (long) Kwon J. Ekstrom
                    • Better Combat (long) Vincent Archer
                    • • Better Combat (long) Matt Cruikshank
                    • Better Combat (long) Kwon J. Ekstrom
                  • Better Combat (long) Zach Collins (Siege)
                  • • Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
                    • • Better Combat (long) Zach Collins (Siege)
                  • Better Combat (long) Paul Schwanz
                  • • Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
                • Better Combat (long) Ben Hawes
      • Better Combat Byron Ellacott
      • • Better Combat cruise
        • • Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
          • Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
          • Better Combat Byron Ellacott
  • Level Grind - alternative Sean Kelly
  • Level Grind - alternative Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
  • Level Grind - alternative Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • Level Grind - alternative Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
• [mudlist] MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Morgan Dodge
• New combat system Cameron Zemek
• MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • MMO Communities Randolf Richardson
  • • MMO Communities Ashley Penney
    • MMO Communities Damion Schubert
    • • MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
  • • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
    • • MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
      • • MMO Communities Dana V. Baldwin
        • • MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
          • • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
            • MMO Communities Zach Collins (Siege)
        • MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
        • • MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
          • • MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
            • • MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
              • • MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
                • MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
              • MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
            • MMO Communities J C Lawrence
            • • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
              • • MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
                • • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
              • MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
              • • MMO Communities Mike Rozak
                • • MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
                • MMO Communities Tom Hunter
                • • MMO Communities zgj22@drexel.edu
                  • • MMO Communities Tom Hunter
                    • • MMO Communities (keywords: commercial influence) Eric Random
              • MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
        • MMO Communities Michael Hartman
        • • MMO Communities Tom "cro" Gordon
          • MMO Communities Paul Schwanz
          • • MMO Communities Michael Hartman
            • • MMO Communities Paul Schwanz
            • MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
      • MMO Communities HRose
      • • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        • • MMO Communities Michael Sellers
          • • MMO Communities HRose
            • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
            • • MMO Communities HRose
              • • MMO Communities Morgan Dodge
                • MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                • MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
                • [DGN] Socialization against the fun Eric Random
      • MMO Communities Koster, Raph
  • MMO Communities Michael Sellers
  • • MMO Communities Yannick Jean
    • MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) ceo