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July 2004

[News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Luca Girardo
- [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Steven King
- [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Luca Girardo
- - [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled David Kennerly
  - - [News] Ultima X: Odyssey cancelled Derek Licciardi
MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
- MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Par Winzell
- - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
  - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
  - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Dana V. Baldwin
    - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Luca Girardo
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Dana V. Baldwin
    - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
- MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Derek Licciardi
- - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Threshold RPG
  - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Adam Burr
    - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
      - CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Scott Macmillan
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Douglas Goodall
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Amanda Walker
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Scott Macmillan
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
        CoH Michael Hartman
        CoH cruise
        CoH Scott Macmillan
        CoH darksuit
        CoH Michael Hartman
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ryan Shwayder
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Byron Ellacott
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Koster, Raph
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Brad McQuaid
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Dana V. Baldwin
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Zach Collins (Siege)
        Instancing (was: MMORPG Cancellations...) Douglas Goodall
        Instancing ceo
        Instancing Douglas Goodall
        Instancing ceo
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        Depth (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Damion Schubert
        Depth (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Sean Howard
        CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Ghilardi Filippo
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Hartman
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? cruise
  - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
  - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
    - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Sellers
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
  - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Paul McInnes
  - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Andres Ferraro
    - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
    - - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ryan Shwayder
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Mark Mensch
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Derek Licciardi
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Erik Bethke
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Koster, Raph
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Derek Licciardi
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) John MacQueen
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Freeman, Jeff
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Thesky isfalling?) Aaron Switzer
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Koster, Raph
        MMO Communities (was MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Otis Viles
        MMO Communities (was RE:[MUD-Dev] MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was RE:MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Otis Viles
        MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Michael Sellers
        MMO Communities (was RE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (was RE:[MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (wasRE:[MUD-Dev]MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) ceo
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities (was RE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (wasRE: [MUD-Dev]MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) John Arras
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) John Arras
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) cruise
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) John Arras
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Peter Keeler
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Otis Viles
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Malcolm W. Tester II
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) Matt Mihaly
        MMO Simulations (was MMO Communities) cruise
        MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Zach Collins (Siege)
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Paolo Piselli
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPGCancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Sean Howard
        forced grouping/coop play Tamzen Cannoy
        forced grouping/coop play Koster, Raph
        forced grouping/coop play Sean Kelly
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Andrew L. Tepper
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Douglas Goodall
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
        What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) ceo
        What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) HRose
        What is an MMOG? ceo
        What is an MMOG? HRose
        What is an MMOG? Dana V. Baldwin
        What is an MMOG? HRose
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) HRose
        MMO Communities Eric Random
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky isfalling?) Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Thesky isfalling?) Sean Howard
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) J C Lawrence
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: The skyis falling?) Derek Licciardi
        MMO Communities (was MMORPG Cancellations: Theskyis falling?) Jon A. Lambert
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Thomas Tomiczek
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Douglas Goodall
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Koster, Raph
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Scott Jennings
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Steven King
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
        The business of avatar worlds (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) F. Randall Farmer
        The business of avatar worlds (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Paul Schwanz
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? David Kennerly
        Words (WAS: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Zach Collins (Siege)
        Words (WAS: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) kennerly@finegamedesign.com
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? zgj22@drexel.edu
      - Is space deep? (was MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) David Kennerly
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Tony Hoyt
      - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Damion Schubert
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Samantha LeCraft
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Samantha LeCraft
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Sean Howard
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Brian 'Psychochild' Green
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Matt Mihaly
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Oliver Smith
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Kerry Fraser-Robinson
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Damion Schubert
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Amanda Walker
        MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? J C Lawrence
- MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? David Kennerly
- MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Michael Sellers
- - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? Luca Girardo
  - MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling? ceo
Sun Game Server Technology Chat Artur Biesiadowski
- Quick Hello Mark Mensch
Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [MUD-Dev][NEWS]GamingOpenMarket) Jon A. Lambert
CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Alex Chacha
- CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Matt Mihaly
- CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Russ Whiteman
CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Mike Rozak

There's been a some of debate about how long players will stick with
CoH, and about whether CoH would have been better as an offline game
with an optional online component. Last night I thought of a
different take on CoH:

Would an offline CoH (with optional online play) be more or less
profitable than than online-only CoH?

I put together some numbers. (NOTE: These are guestimates. If you
disagree, change them and see what happens to the final results.)

Income generated by CoH per customer:

- $15 from the retail box

- Online CoH gets $15/month, BUT I'll assume $10 of that is
spent on servers, bandwidth, and support. I'll also assume that
players stick with CoH for 4 months, making 3 payments of
(($15-$10) = $5) before they leave. (I recall that a
traditional MMORPG aims for 8-12 month of play, so this assumes
that CoH's shallow gameplay can't hold customers.).

- Conclusion: Online CoH brings in $30 per customer, offline
brings in $15 per customer.

How many customers?

- I recall hearing that CoH had 200K users. Since it's still
early in the product's lifespan, I'll double this, to guestimate
400K customers over the product's lifespace.

- Recently I heard that the software industry's official piracy
rate is 38%. I assume game piracy is higher. I read (online?)
one developer's comment that his game from the late 90's had a
confirmed 7:1 piracy rate. In order not to be too controversial,
I'll assume a 50% piracy rate. This means that while online CoH
may sell 400K copies to 400K users, OFFLINE CoH would have sold
200K copies to 400K users.

- The online nature has pros and cons: It's more expensive and
connecting has its drawbacks. But, playing with other people is
more fun, and online-games are still "trendy". (For an example
of trendy: I suspect Myst got a boost in game sales because it
was one of the first games to use a CD-Rom, AND it came out just
as CD-ROM drives became ubiquitous. As a result, it used a new
technology that computer users wanted to play with. If it had
come out a year later its sales would have been smaller.) I'll
assume that the pros and cons balance out. One could easily
argue a 2x swing in either direction.

- Conclusion: Online CoH sells 400K copies x $30 = $12M
income. Offline CoH sells 200K copies x $15 = $3M income.

How much are development costs?

- I haven't heard numbers about CoH, nor have done any searching
on the topic. Let the CoH development cost be $N.

- Online games are more expensive to develop than offline. I'll
assume offline CoH would cost 1/2 N.

- Profitability = Income - Development costs....

Thus, if CoH cost $5M to produce, then offline CoH would cost
$2.5M... doing the math results in a profit of $7M for online CoH
and only $0.5M for offline CoH. The ROI is $7M/$5M = 140% for online
CoH, and $0.5M/$2.5M = 20% for offline CoH.

If online CoH costs $10M, profits are $2M. Offline CoH's cost is
then $5M, so LOSSES are $2M. ROI is 20% for online CoH, and -80% for
offline CoH.

With numbers like these (which are guestimates) management won't
really care if players only stick around for a few months. The
online version of CoH appears to be more profitable than a
hypothetical offline version.

By the way, if anyone has more accurate numbers than my guestimates,
or a more accurate model, I'd like to know so I can see how they
affect profitability.

Mike Rozak
http://www.mxac.com.au
- CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Douglas Goodall
- - CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Mike Rozak
  - - Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Byron Ellacott
    - - Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Mike Rozak
      - Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Byron Ellacott
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Yannick Jean
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Otis Viles
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Mike Rozak
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Erik Bethke
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) dienw
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) J C Lawrence
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) J C Lawrence
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Erik Bethke
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Erik Bethke
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Matt Mihaly
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Sean Howard
        Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
    - CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Michael Hartman
    - - CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Erik Bethke
  - CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Michael Hartman
- CoH and others (was Cancellations: ...) Luca Girardo
CoH and others Alex Chacha
- CoH and others Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- CoH and others David Eckelberry
- - CoH and others Vincent Archer
  - COH and others Alex Chacha
  - - COH and others Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    - - COH and others Alex Chacha
Revenues Rafael Seabra
- Revenues Erik Zwerling
- - Revenues Matt Mihaly
  - - Revenues Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
    - - Revenues Matt Mihaly
CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Koster, Raph
- CoH (was: MMORPG Cancellations: The sky is falling?) Damion Schubert
Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Ghilardi Filippo
- Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Mike Rozak
[MUD-Dev]: Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Luca Girardo
Virtual/Real Currencies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
Indie MMOG's ceo
- Indie MMOG's Koster, Raph
- - Indie MMOG's ceo
- Indie MMOG's Derek Licciardi
- - Indie MMOG's ceo
  - - Indie MMOG's Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    - Indie MMOG's Rob C
    - - Indie MMOG's ceo
      - Indie MMOG's Rob C
        Indie MMOG's ceo
        Indie MMOG's Rob C
        Indie MMOG's ceo
        Indie MMOG's Michael Sellers
        Indie MMOG's Michael Sellers
        Indie MMOG's ceo
      - Indie MMOG's Matt Mihaly
      - Indie MMOG's Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        Indie MMOG's Matt Mihaly
        Indie MMOG's Amanda Walker
        Indie MMOG's Jon A. Lambert
        Indie MMOG's Zach Collins (Siege)
        Indie MMOG's Amanda Walker
    - Indie MMOG's Derek Licciardi
    - - Indie MMOG's ceo
      - Indie MMOG's Matt Mihaly
      - Indie MMOG's Mike Rozak
      - Indie MMOG's Scott Jennings
        Indie MMOG's Mike Rozak
        Indie MMOG's Tiago Carita
  - Indie MMOG's Matt Mihaly
  - - Indie MMOG's Derek Licciardi
    - - Indie MMOG's Matt Mihaly
Online vs Offline (was CoH and others) Mike Rozak
Security and cheating in MMOs jmbroyer
[NEWS] Artifact Entertainment going bankrupt? Luca Girardo
MEDIA: Multiplayer Gaming's Quiet Revolution J C Lawrence
- DarkGalaxy Tiago Carita
(no subject) Ghilardi Filippo
Community? Erik Bethke
- Community? Scott Jennings
- - Community? Paul Schwanz
- Community? Brian Thyer
- Community? Sean Howard
- - Community? Zach Collins (Siege)
  - Community? (Level Grind) Brian Thyer
  - - Community? (Level Grind) Sean Howard
    - - Community? (Level Grind) Damion Schubert
      - Community? (Level Grind) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        Community? (Level Grind) Malcolm W. Tester II
        Community? (Level Grind) Victor Wachter
      - Community? (Level Grind) Douglas Goodall
      - Community? (Level Grind) Matt Mihaly
        Community? (Level Grind) Ghilardi Filippo
        Community? (Level Grind) HRose
        Community? (Level Grind) Douglas Goodall
        Community? (Level Grind) Ghilardi Filippo
        Community? (Level Grind) Samurai Cat!
Scalabity in MMOG's Rafael Seabra
Level Grind - alternative Brendan O'Brien
- Level Grind - alternative darksuit
- - Level Grind - alternative Brendan O'Brien
- Level Grind - alternative cruise
- - Level Grind - alternative Brendan O'Brien
  - - Level Grind - alternative cruise
    - - Level Grind - alternative Brendan O'Brien
- Level Grind - alternative Corey Cauble
- - Level Grind - alternative Sean Howard
  - - Level Grind - alternative Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  - Better Combat cruise
  - - Better Combat Ghilardi Filippo
    - - Better Combat cruise
    - Better Combat John Buehler
    - - Better Combat David Kennerly
      - Better Combat John Buehler
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat John Buehler
        Better Combat Amanda Walker
        Better Combat John Buehler
        Better Combat cruise
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Combat Yannick Jean
        Better Combat Koster, Raph
        Better Combat HRose
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Michael Hartman
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Koster, Raph
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] HRose
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] Michael Hartman
        Better Communication [was: Better Combat] cruise
        Better Combat Paul Schwanz
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat Darkwolf
        Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
        Better Combat Matt Mihaly
        Better Combat Koster, Raph
        Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        Better Combat HRose
        Better Combat Steven King
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Paolo Piselli
        Better Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat John Buehler
        Better Combat HRose
        Better Combat Koster, Raph
        Better Combat HRose
        Better Combat (keywords: downtime, socialization, UI) Eric Random
        Better Combat Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
        Better Combat Amanda Walker
        Better Combat Yannick Jean
        Better Combat Yannick Jean
        Better Combat Tom "cro" Gordon
        Better Combat Alex Arnon
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Combat Douglas Goodall
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) Paolo Piselli
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Derek Larson
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Derek Larson
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
        Cognitively Interesting Combat cruise
        Cognitively Interesting Combat ceo
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Byron Ellacott
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Ben Hawes
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Ben Hawes
        Cognitively Interesting Combat KaVir@t-online.de (Richard Woolcock)
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Mike Rozak
        Cognitively Interesting Combat
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Peter A. Harkins
        Cognitively Interesting Combat Paolo Piselli
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) cruise
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) ceo
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) David Kennerly
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) Paolo Piselli
        Cognitively Interesting Combat (was Better Combat) cruise
        Better Combat Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) David Kennerly
        [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Ryan Shwayder
        [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Ryan Shwayder
        [DGN] Designed Downtime (was Better Combat) Michael Hartman
        Better Combat Alex Arnon
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat John Buehler
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat John Buehler
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] cruise
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] John Buehler
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Matt Mihaly
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Otis Viles
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] Ben Hawes
        Long-Term Rewards [was: Better Combat] John Buehler
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar [was: Long-Term Rewards] Michael Hartman
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar [was:Long-Term Rewards] Vladimir Cole
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Koster, Raph
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Koster, Raph
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPGavatar[was:Long-Term Rewards] Michael Sellers
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Corey Crawford
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Byron Ellacott
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Vladimir Cole
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
        Deriving Self Esteem from one's MMORPG avatar Mark Mensch
    - Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
    - - Better Combat Zach Collins (Siege)
      - Better Combat David Kennerly
      - Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat cruise
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Byron Ellacott
        Better Combat Craig Huber
        Better Combat Matt Mihaly
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Byron Ellacott
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Byron Ellacott
        Better Combat Paul Schwanz
        Better Combat Michael Hartman
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Matt Mihaly
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Eric Random
        Better Combat Eric Random
        Better Combat Corey Cauble
        Better Combat David Kennerly
        Better Combat Corey Cauble
        Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
        Better Combat (long) Paul Schwanz
        Better Combat (long) Douglas Goodall
        [DGN] Music (was: Better Combat (long)) Zach Collins (Siege)
        Better Combat (long) Koster, Raph
        Better Combat (long) Matthew Dobervich
        Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
        Better Combat (long) Koster, Raph
        Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
        Creating a Player Narrative Ben Hawes
        Creating a Player Narrative Douglas Goodall
        Creating a Player Narrative Tim Schubert
        Creating a Player Narrative Dana V. Baldwin
        Creating a Player Narrative HRose
        integrating information streams into the game (was: Creating a Player Narrative) ceo
        integrating information streams into the game (was:Creating a Player Narrative) Damion Schubert
        Creating a Player Narrative Dana V. Baldwin
        Creating a Player Narrative John MacQueen
        Creating a Player Narrative HRose
        Better Combat (long) Matt Monaghan
        Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
        Better Combat (long) Byron Ellacott
        Better Combat (long) J C Lawrence
        Better Combat (long) Freeman, Jeff
        Better Combat (long) cruise
        Better Combat (long) J C Lawrence
        Better Combat (long) Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Better Combat (long) Vincent Archer
        Better Combat (long) Matt Cruikshank
        Better Combat (long) Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Better Combat (long) Zach Collins (Siege)
        Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
        Better Combat (long) Zach Collins (Siege)
        Better Combat (long) Paul Schwanz
        Better Combat (long) David Kennerly
        Better Combat (long) Ben Hawes
    - Better Combat Byron Ellacott
    - - Better Combat cruise
      - Better Combat Brendan O'Brien
        Better Combat Dana V. Baldwin
        Better Combat Byron Ellacott
- Level Grind - alternative Sean Kelly
- Level Grind - alternative Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes
- Level Grind - alternative Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Level Grind - alternative Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
[mudlist] MMO Communities (was [MUD-Dev] MMORPG Cancellations:Theskyisfalling?) Morgan Dodge
New combat system Cameron Zemek
MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- MMO Communities Randolf Richardson
- - MMO Communities Ashley Penney
  - MMO Communities Damion Schubert
  - - MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
- - MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
  - - MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
    - - MMO Communities Dana V. Baldwin
      - MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
        MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        MMO Communities Zach Collins (Siege)
      - MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
      - MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
        MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
        MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities Brendan O'Brien
        MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities J C Lawrence
        MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
        MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities Mike Rozak
        MMO Communities Matt Mihaly
        MMO Communities Tom Hunter
        MMO Communities zgj22@drexel.edu
        MMO Communities Tom Hunter
        MMO Communities (keywords: commercial influence) Eric Random
        MMO Communities Brad McQuaid
      - MMO Communities Michael Hartman
      - MMO Communities Tom "cro" Gordon
        MMO Communities Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities Michael Hartman
        MMO Communities Paul Schwanz
        MMO Communities Byron Ellacott
    - MMO Communities HRose
    - - MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
      - MMO Communities Michael Sellers
        MMO Communities HRose
        MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        MMO Communities HRose
        MMO Communities Morgan Dodge
        MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        MMO Communities Freeman, Jeff
        [DGN] Socialization against the fun Eric Random
    - MMO Communities Koster, Raph
- MMO Communities Michael Sellers
- - MMO Communities Yannick Jean
  - MMO Communities Ola Fosheim Grøstad
What is an MMOG? (was: MMO Communities) ceo