June 2004

• believable NPCs (was Natural Language Generation) Mike Rozak
• TECH: MUD Skeleton Craig L.
• DGN: Space MUD 67Me You
• • DGN: Space MUD ceo
  • DGN: Space MUD Sean Howard
  • DGN: Space MUD Tracy Lee
• AI in gauntlet (was: Natural Language Generation) ceo
• [DGN/BIZ] Why player dont play multi user race or is there a market for multiuser race? stéphane Garin
• • [DGN/BIZ] Why player dont play multi user race or is there a market for multiuser race? Eric Lamy
  • [DGN/BIZ] Why player dont play multi user race or is therea market for multiuser race? Matt Mihaly
  • [DGN/BIZ] Why player dont play multi user race or is there a market for multiuser race? ceo
  • [DGN/BIZ] Why player dont play multi user race or is there a market for multiuser race? Damion Schubert
• [SVEvents] 6/22, J C Lawrence
• BIZ: MMOs in China Chris Yeh
• • BIZ: MMOs in China satya@gamedevid.org
  • • BIZ: MMOs in China Tiago Carita
  • BIZ: MMOs in China Damion Schubert
• JOB: Shattered Prism: Lost Wastelands Trace Kern
• [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Peter Keeler
• • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Matt Mihaly
  • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Matt Mihaly
      • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Matt Mihaly
  • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Freeman, Jeff
  • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Peter Keeler
  • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Scott Jennings
  • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market ren@aldermangroup.com
  • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Freeman, Jeff
  • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Scott Jennings
    • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Vladimir Cole
    • • [NEWS] Gaming Open Market Freeman, Jeff
• submissions for MMP Gems book ceo
• [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? David Kennerly
• • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? mike stedman
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Jim Purbrick
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Adam
  • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Jim Purbrick
    • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? ceo
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Mike Rozak
  • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Jon A. Lambert
    • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? J C Lawrence
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Luca Girardo
  • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Matt Mihaly
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Richard A. Bartle
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Luca Girardo
  • • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Tazzik
    • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Michael Sellers
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Mike Rozak
  • [NEWS] Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why? Luca Girardo
• DGN/HUMOR: Virtual worlds and virtual holidays Mike Rozak
• • DGN/HUMOR: Virtual worlds and virtual holidays Michael "Flury" Chui
  • • DGN/HUMOR: Virtual worlds and virtual holidays Mike Rozak
  • DGN/HUMOR: Virtual worlds and virtual holidays Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Michael Sellers
• • "USPs" ceo
  • • "USPs" Luca Girardo
  • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Derek Licciardi
  • • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Threshold RPG
    • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Mike Rozak
    • • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Matt Mihaly
      • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Vincent Archer
    • "USPs" (was: Warhammer Online Cancelled -- Why?) Damion Schubert
  • "USPs" Scott Macmillan
• Exponential experience points and levels ceo
• • Exponential experience points and levels cruise
  • Exponential experience points and levels Sean Middleditch
  • • Exponential experience points and levels Jesus Lopez
    • Exponential experience points and levels Adam
    • • Exponential experience points and levels Sean Middleditch
    • Exponential experience points and levels Steven King
    • • Exponential experience points and levels Ghilardi Filippo
  • Exponential experience points and levels zgj22@drexel.edu
  • • Exponential experience points and levels ceo
      zgj22@drexel.edu wrote:
      > From: ceo <ceo@grexengine.com>
      
      >> I fancy playing a game where you get exponentially more exp per
      >> situation the more you are (statistically) outgunned. Is anyone
      >> running one? :)
      
      >> If you beat someone of lesser ability, again you get nothing -
      >> and may even lose experience ("character grows accustomed to
      >> lesser
      
      > Another lurker dropping out of the woodwork...
      
      > That is an interesting concept, however I don't think that players
      > of a Massive/MUD would necc. take to it very well... but only
      > because of the dropping XP bit. To penalize a player for something
      > that may be out of their control will be seen either as a bug, or
      > as bad game design.
      
      > An example:
      
      > Bob is a 15th level warrior. He decides he is going to take on a
      > 17th level Doom Bunny. However, to get there, he needs to go
      > through the Dark Carrot Patch, which is infested with 11th level
      > Lesser Evil Rabbits. He goes through the patch, and is viciously
      > assaulted by a virtual army of malicious
      > fluffballs. Unfortunately, because of the sheer aggressiveness
      > of said rabbits, he has to kill each one that approaches him,
      > totaling 10 in all. After killing them, he realizes that he has
      > just lost 3 times the XP he would get by going to kill the Doom
      > Bunny in the first place. He gets PO-ed and stops playing.
      
      Therein lies the hardest problem: writing the fitness function to
      describe how you "score" the combatants comparitive chances of
      success.
      
      It's hard enough in a one-on-one scenario, but - as you point out -
      composing multiple scenarios on either or both sides makes it even
      more tricky.
      
      Off the top of my head I can think of lots of different approaches
      (which is part of why I want to see how others have done it...).
      
      e.g. "greedy grouping of scenarios": don't count the individual
      battles, but use a greedy algorithm that sucks up every successive
      battle into a running total. A set of "termination conditions"
      cause it to evaluate at that moment and reset.
      
      For instance, could have the following termination criteria:
      
      1. Player enters a designated "safe area"
      
      2. Player heals to full health whilst no monsters actively
      targetting them
      
      3. More than 60 seconds have elapsed since the last battle
      
      ... etc
      
      e.g. "quest-writer groupings": monsters are artificially manually
      grouped by a content-writer, and e.g. Lesser Evil Rabbits are marked
      as having no negative effect unless the player fails to enter combat
      with a Doom Bunny. This could be evaluated e.g. 2 minutes after the
      last LER was encountered, so that the player has time to kill the
      LER's, take a breather, then hunt down the DB - but if they just
      kill the LER's and run away (or fail to find the DB, and go home
      empty-handed) then they will suffer the negative effects.
      
      ...etc
      
      Adam M
    • Exponential experience points and levels mike stedman
    • • Exponential experience points and levels zgj22@drexel.edu
  • Exponential experience points and levels David Kennerly
  • • Exponential experience points and levels Vincent Archer
• Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] Gaming Open Market) David Blankley
• • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] Gaming Open Market) Freeman, Jeff
  • • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] Gaming Open Market) Scott Tengelin
    • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] Gaming OpenMarket) Dana V. Baldwin
    • • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] GamingOpenMarket) Freeman, Jeff
      • • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS]GamingOpenMarket) Dana V. Baldwin
    • Virtual/Real Currencies (was: [NEWS] Gaming Open Market) Timothy Dang