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April 2004

[BIZ] Playas Pay to Spread the Luv Michael Tresca
Mogi from Newtgames Olivier Lejade
Client side simulation dienw
- Client side simulation Nate Combs {Home}
- - Client side simulation Thomas Tomiczek
- Client side simulation Amanda Walker
- Client side simulation Artur Biesiadowski
- Client side simulation Byron Ellacott
[Devops] Initial meoww cleanup J C Lawrence
Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Michael Sellers
- Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Tess Snider
- - Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Amanda Walker
- Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10Reasons (thefirstone :)) Derek Licciardi
Announcement: Community Work Symposium - May 21 T.L. Taylor
Middleware ceo
[NEWS] Final Fantasy XI debut on PS2 in US kennerly@sfsu.edu
Random Placename Generation Matt Chatterley
- Random Placename Generation Joshua Hughes
- Random Placename Generation Ben Hawes
- - Random Placename Generation Matt Chatterley
- Random Placename Generation Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Mike Rozak
Middleware Luca Girardo
Habitat Redux Mirjam Eladhari
MUD-Dev Convention Report David Kennerly
Licensed setting MMOGs Matt Mihaly
- Licensed setting MMOGs Michael Sellers
- Licensed setting MMOGs Matt Mihaly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
Player Justice Freeman, Jeff
Licensed setting MMOGs Taylor Daynes
Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
Dangers of Middleware Mike Rozak
Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Marian Griffith
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
  - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Douglas Goodall
  - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Eric Random
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Stone, Jason
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Douglas Goodall
Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (the firstone:)) Thomas Tomiczek
- Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone:)) David Kennerly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John MacQueen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Travis Casey
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Kevin N Shallow
Paranoia Ragnar Lonn
Player Justice Amanda Walker
- Player Justice Paul Schwanz
Less constrained environments Chris Duesing
- Less constrained environments John MacQueen
MMOG money-making clients ceo
- MMOG money-making clients Koster, Raph
- MMOG money-making clients Valerio Santinelli
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paul Schwanz
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paolo Piselli
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Vincent Archer
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Thomas Tomiczek
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Steven King
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Vincent Archer
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Miller
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Chris Duesing
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paul Schwanz
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paolo Piselli
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! baar@imperian.com
Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server andGordon's10Reasons (thefirstone :)) Matt Chatterley
MudDev FAQ - part 2 Marian Griffith
Gay Characters in Videogames Michael Tresca
- Gay Characters in Videogames Tess Snider
- - Gay Characters in Videogames Darksuit
- Gay Characters in Videogames Matt Mihaly
- - Gay Characters in Videogames Michael Tresca
  - - Gay Characters in Videogames Jon A. Lambert
    - - Gay Characters in Videogames matt@ironrealms.com
- Gay Characters in Videogames Douglas Goodall
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 kihyun {GTA Interactive}
Player Justice Freeman, Jeff
- Player Justice Paul Schwanz
Licensed setting MMOGs Ian McDonald
- Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Ryan S. Dancey
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! baar@imperian.com
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
R: [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Ghilardi Filippo
[BoardGameDesign] Fog of War (to Robert & dr1010xltd) (fwd) J C Lawrence
Online economies was [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
PvP vs. PvE was [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Eric Random
Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
- Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
- - Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
  - - Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
    - - Kaczynski's Law Jon A. Lambert
      - Kaczynski's Law jfreeman@soe.sony.com
      - Kaczynski's Law Robert Flesch
        Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
        Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
  - Kaczynski's Law J C Lawrence
  - Kaczynski's Law Mike Rozak
  - - Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
- Kaczynski's Law cruise
- Kaczynski's Law Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Kaczynski's Law Mike Rozak
Playing catch-up with levels [WAS Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy!] Byron Ellacott
- Playing catch-up with levels [WAS Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy!] Steven King
PvP vs. PvE Rob C
notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Mirjam Eladhari
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC matt@ironrealms.com
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Luca Girardo
- - notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Jonas Heide Smith
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Ren Reynolds
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Brian 'Psychochild' Green
Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
- Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
- - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Michael Sellers
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - Playing catch-up with levels Ben Hawes
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
      - Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels Hulbert, Leland
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Arras
      - Playing catch-up with levels jfreeman@soe.sony.com
      - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Chatterley
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Chatterley
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
        Playing catch-up with levels Vincent Archer
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Stephen Routledge
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Lars Duening
        Playing catch-up with levels ext.Christer.Enfors@tietoenator.com
        Playing catch-up with levels Vincent Archer
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels ext.Christer.Enfors@tietoenator.com
        
        Vincent Archer wrote:
        > According to ext.Christer.Enfors@tietoenator.com:
        
        >> I was thinking I should let players hire NPC trainers, and then
        >> define which skills (not just one skill) this trainer would
        >> teach. The player (or guild) would then charge money from other
        >> players (or guild members) for access to this trainer. Thus, the
        >> player has in effect created his own class. If it's good, he'll
        >> even be able to profit off of the access charges. A military
        >> guild could boast "we give our members access to a Swordsman
        >> trainer, a Spy trainer and a Healer trainer at a discount!". The
        >> trainer would also incur costs for its owner, so in order for the
        >> owner to make a profit, the skill set (read: template) he gives
        >> his trainer has to be good enough for other players to want to
        >> pay for).
        
        > The problem with this approach is exclusive trainer access. Can
        > you use different trainers?
        
        My plan was to allow a player to access multiple trainers. But the
        owner of each trainer will be able to set a "weekly access fee" for
        access to each trainer. This means you pay X gold to be allowed to
        use the trainer for one week. So if you want to access two different
        trainers, you'll have to pay two fees.
        
        Guilds can also choose to allow free access to their trainers for
        their guild members. But since the trainers come with maintenance
        costs, the guild would have to finance that somehow.
        
        > If you can use multiple trainers without penalty, then you're not
        > accessing a "class", you're using "that trainer with skill X & Y,
        > and that other with Z".
        
        I suppose you could regard the separate access fees for each trainer
        as a penalty. But it doesn't really matter to be if players are
        accessing a "class" or not, I like the system no matter what it's
        called. :-)
        
        > The next obvious idea is to lock by skill: you can train at a
        > trainer if and only if you do not have (yet) a skill that the
        > trainer cannot teach. Since the obvious "marketing move" is then
        > to advertise "we have a trainer that offers every skill", you need
        > to defeat that, by making the maintenance costs of skills
        > exponential. Class creators then have to select how wide the
        > skills they place on the trainer: too wide and it's too
        > expensive. Too small, and no one's interested.
        
        I wasn't planning on placing any restrictions on what trainers you
        can use. The trainer owner can place restrictions though, such as
        you have to be a member of their guild, you have to pay the weekly
        access fee, etc. However, I intend to let each trainer only teach a
        set number of skills. The trainer owner can easily get around this
        by hiring a second trainer of course, but that's not a problem since
        each trainer comes with maintenance costs. And players aren't likely
        to want to pay for access to both trainers.
        
        Also, the more advanced the skills a trainer teaches, the higher its
        maintenance cost will be. Teaching advanced magic requires a lot of
        expensive reagents (read: maintenance cost), etc.
        
        > And, finally, there is the problem of the chicken and the egg. How
        > do the characters initially get money to create the trainers? You
        > need to create "basic trainers", who make essentially free
        > classes. Those free classes must not be competitive with
        > player-designed classes (otherwise, people use the basic
        > trainers), yet efficient enough that people can earn enough to
        > create the first set of trainers.
        
        You seem to be assuming that you need skills to make money, which
        isn't true in my design. Newbies will be able to make money by
        performing simple tasks like picking berries in the forest, and
        selling them. There are skills that would make this easier or
        quicker for them, but these skills are not required. Once the newbie
        has made a little money doing this, he can buy tools (such as an
        axe) that allows him to make money more quickly (such as chopping
        down trees and selling the logs). After doing that, he'll have
        enough money to pay for access to a cheap trainer which offers basic
        skills.
        
        Oh, and I should probably mention that you don't have to have access
        to a trainer to increase your skills in my design. Skills incrase
        with use. Having access to a trainer (and spending offline time
        training with him) just allows you to increase your skills faster
        than training on your own would allow.
        
        --
        Christer Enfors, AKA Dannil
        
        Playing catch-up with levels Eli Stevens {WG.c}
        Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Jason Downs
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Chris Duesing
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Travis Nixon
        Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Travis Nixon
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Douglas Goodall
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Douglas Goodall
        Playing catch-up with levels Harrok
        Playing catch-up with levels Valerio Santinelli
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
      - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
    - Playing catch-up with levels Jeff Fuller
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
    - Playing catch-up with levels Jeff
    - Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
  - Playing catch-up with levels cruise
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Edward Glowacki
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Ian McDonald
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
  - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Pileborg Joachim - FMT
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Paul Schwanz
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
    - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
      - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Paul Schwanz
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency sziisoft
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency cruise
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Steven King
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Adam Helps
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Brian Thyer
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Castronova, Edward
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Alistair Milne
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
    - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
      - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Kirinyaga
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency brian@thyer.net
    - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Kirinyaga
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Arkitan Plu
Story Generators Douglas Goodall
ADMIN Changes to the list page J C Lawrence
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19 Chanur Silvarian
Playing catch-up with levels Jeremy Gaffney
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19 Threshold RPG
Bringing in friends Pat Ditterline
- Bringing in friends Amanda Walker
[biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... ceo
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Freeman, Jeff
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Eli Stevens {WG.c}
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Sean Howard
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Mike Rozak
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Nathan Yospe
Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
- Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23 Alex Chacha
Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
- Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
- - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
  - - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
      - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
  - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
  - - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
      - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
        Playing catch-up with levels Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
- Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
- Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
- - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler