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April 2004

[BIZ] Playas Pay to Spread the Luv Michael Tresca
Mogi from Newtgames Olivier Lejade
Client side simulation dienw
- Client side simulation Nate Combs {Home}
- - Client side simulation Thomas Tomiczek
- Client side simulation Amanda Walker
- Client side simulation Artur Biesiadowski
- Client side simulation Byron Ellacott
[Devops] Initial meoww cleanup J C Lawrence
Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Michael Sellers
- Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Tess Snider
- - Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Amanda Walker
- Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10Reasons (thefirstone :)) Derek Licciardi
Announcement: Community Work Symposium - May 21 T.L. Taylor
Middleware ceo
[NEWS] Final Fantasy XI debut on PS2 in US kennerly@sfsu.edu
Random Placename Generation Matt Chatterley
- Random Placename Generation Joshua Hughes
- Random Placename Generation Ben Hawes
- - Random Placename Generation Matt Chatterley
- Random Placename Generation Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone :)) Mike Rozak
Middleware Luca Girardo
Habitat Redux Mirjam Eladhari
MUD-Dev Convention Report David Kennerly
Licensed setting MMOGs Matt Mihaly
- Licensed setting MMOGs Michael Sellers
- Licensed setting MMOGs Matt Mihaly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
Player Justice Freeman, Jeff
Licensed setting MMOGs Taylor Daynes
Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
Dangers of Middleware Mike Rozak
Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Marian Griffith
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
  - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Douglas Goodall
  - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Eric Random
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Stone, Jason
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Douglas Goodall
Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (the firstone:)) Thomas Tomiczek
- Sun's Sim Server and Gordon's 10 Reasons (thefirstone:)) David Kennerly
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John MacQueen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Travis Casey
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Kevin N Shallow
Paranoia Ragnar Lonn
Player Justice Amanda Walker
- Player Justice Paul Schwanz
Less constrained environments Chris Duesing
- Less constrained environments John MacQueen
MMOG money-making clients ceo
- MMOG money-making clients Koster, Raph
- MMOG money-making clients Valerio Santinelli
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paul Schwanz
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paolo Piselli
  - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Vincent Archer
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Jeff Fuller
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Thomas Tomiczek
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Steven King
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Vincent Archer
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Miller
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! John Buehler
        [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Chris Duesing
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paul Schwanz
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Paolo Piselli
      - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Amanda Walker
    - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Matt Mihaly
    - - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! baar@imperian.com
Middleware (was Sun's Sim Server andGordon's10Reasons (thefirstone :)) Matt Chatterley
MudDev FAQ - part 2 Marian Griffith
Gay Characters in Videogames Michael Tresca
- Gay Characters in Videogames Tess Snider
- - Gay Characters in Videogames Darksuit
- Gay Characters in Videogames Matt Mihaly
- - Gay Characters in Videogames Michael Tresca
  - - Gay Characters in Videogames Jon A. Lambert
    - - Gay Characters in Videogames matt@ironrealms.com
- Gay Characters in Videogames Douglas Goodall
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 kihyun {GTA Interactive}
Player Justice Freeman, Jeff
- Player Justice Paul Schwanz
Licensed setting MMOGs Ian McDonald
- Licensed setting MMOGs Christopher Allen
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Ryan S. Dancey
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Otis Viles
- - [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! baar@imperian.com
- [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! J C Lawrence
R: [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Ghilardi Filippo
[BoardGameDesign] Fog of War (to Robert & dr1010xltd) (fwd) J C Lawrence
Online economies was [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
PvP vs. PvE was [News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Brian Hook
[News] Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy! Eric Random
Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
- Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
- - Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
  - - Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
    - - Kaczynski's Law Jon A. Lambert
      - Kaczynski's Law jfreeman@soe.sony.com
      - Kaczynski's Law Robert Flesch
        Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
        Kaczynski's Law Freeman, Jeff
  - Kaczynski's Law J C Lawrence
  - Kaczynski's Law Mike Rozak
  - - Kaczynski's Law Michael Sellers
- Kaczynski's Law cruise
- Kaczynski's Law Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Kaczynski's Law Mike Rozak
Playing catch-up with levels [WAS Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy!] Byron Ellacott
- Playing catch-up with levels [WAS Virtual goods--Oh, the controversy!] Steven King
PvP vs. PvE Rob C
notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Mirjam Eladhari
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC matt@ironrealms.com
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Luca Girardo
- - notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Jonas Heide Smith
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Ren Reynolds
- notes from MUD Dev conf and GDC Brian 'Psychochild' Green
Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
- Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
- - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Michael Sellers
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - Playing catch-up with levels Ben Hawes
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
      - Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels Hulbert, Leland
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Arras
      - Playing catch-up with levels jfreeman@soe.sony.com
      - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Chatterley
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Chatterley
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
        Playing catch-up with levels Vincent Archer
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Stephen Routledge
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Lars Duening
        Playing catch-up with levels ext.Christer.Enfors@tietoenator.com
        Playing catch-up with levels Vincent Archer
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels ext.Christer.Enfors@tietoenator.com
        Playing catch-up with levels Eli Stevens {WG.c}
        Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Jason Downs
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Chris Duesing
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Travis Nixon
        Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Travis Nixon
        Playing catch-up with levels cruise
        Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Douglas Goodall
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels Douglas Goodall
        Playing catch-up with levels Harrok
        Playing catch-up with levels Valerio Santinelli
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
      - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
        Playing catch-up with levels Kwon J. Ekstrom
    - Playing catch-up with levels Jeff Fuller
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
    - Playing catch-up with levels Jeff
    - Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Craig Huber
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
  - Playing catch-up with levels cruise
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Edward Glowacki
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Ian McDonald
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
  - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Pileborg Joachim - FMT
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Paul Schwanz
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
    - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
      - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
        
        From: Matt Chatterley
        
        > If we extend the model, and include (as another poster suggested)
        > the Baker (BA), we have:
        
        > CH + DG sell to CO.
        > DG sells to BA.
        
        > BA sells to everyone.
        > CO sells to everyone.
        
        > Does this added complexity add anything to the model, or not?
        
        > Now the DG players can sell to two buyers, and if they were to
        > work harder and produce more dough, they could sell more,
        
        I don't think this additional level of complexity is useful. Bakers
        are still Cookie-makers. Abstracting the model to this level, we're
        better off just considering them all CO's regardless what they
        really (virtually, hypothetically) make. You might get *some* more
        cookie-makers by extending the choices, depth and interest of the
        level, but probably not that many more.
        
        I say they're the same because the BA's and CO's are selling
        essentially the same thing: Well, for one it's bread and the other
        it's cookie, but if bread serves the same purpose as cookie, then we
        might as well consider it to be a cookie, just as we consider BA's
        to be cookie-makers.
        
        Point being that doubling the number of crafting professions in the
        game won't double the number of people who want to craft: You're
        just dividing the same pool of players.
        
        > increasing their profits (probably accumulating money themselves);
        > the CH players do not have this luxury, and have only one outlet
        > for their goods.
        
        Even if they could work harder and sell more dough, their profits
        (coming from COs) are the cookie makers costs. Cookies are just
        going to increase in price to cover that, the COs still make all the
        money.
        
        But in reality, I don't think would happen. I think they would work
        harder and sell more dough, for less money. The price of cookies
        would drop, based on the resource being cheaper.
        
        > I think in this case, everyone would still be making money - but
        > the higher up you go (the further away from the 'resource
        > gatherers'), the more money there is to be made - and the more
        > money players will pool.
        
        Yah, agree with you there.
        
        > Assuming that the sinks/faucets are appropriately serviced, and no
        > potential gain is "excessive" compared to others, I don't see
        > anything wrong with this.
        
        I suspect that the higher up you go, the higher the rate of
        conversion from active to inactive cash you'll find.
        
        > What it suggests to me is: There must be other outlets for
        > money. Better ovens. Bigger shops, a larger wheelbarrow to carry
        > choccie chips in - whatever it is, things such as upgrades will,
        > if made available, encourage the richer players to re-invest their
        > 'inactive cash', putting it back into circulation.
        
        True, but in the real world investment means risk. Players will
        demand a garuanteed return on their investment, with no risk or
        potential for loss. They'll put the money back into the system
        (such as when they buy dough or chips), but only with the complete
        assurance that they'll get it back later, plus a little more.
        
        > Blurring the distinctive hierarchy above might change the
        > situation too, but I haven't really thought that through enough -
        > however, what about adding the 'wholesaler' in, someone who buys
        > cookies and dough in bulk from the gatherers, and then sells it on
        > to bakers/cookie makers - covering the costs of storing and
        > transporting the goods?
        
        It seems that adding more levels like this is a good thing, in that
        it spreads-out the amount of cash being converted to inactive a bit
        more.
        
        It's still being converted to inactive cash, but more people have a
        chunk of it than in the 2-tier model.
        
        Also, I think we've been overlooking the role of taxes in wealth
        re-distribution (in the real world, that is).
        
        So offline we have banks and other investments, risk, taxes and so
        on to redistribute wealth, but online we have none of these things,
        and the players would probably hate it if we did.
        
        Kind of thinking about the idea of 'virtual investments' which don't
        return any money to the investor, but instead buy the crafter his
        advancement in the system. So we tell the crafter that he's still
        got that money - hasn't spent it, and it's all his and 100% safe -
        but he can't spend it unless he's willing to sacrifice his
        advancement.
        
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Paul Schwanz
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency sziisoft
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency cruise
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Steven King
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Matt Chatterley
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Douglas Goodall
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency baar@imperian.com
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Adam Helps
        DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Brian Thyer
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Castronova, Edward
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Eric Random
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Alistair Milne
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency John Buehler
    - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Rayzam
      - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Kirinyaga
- - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Freeman, Jeff
  - - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency brian@thyer.net
    - DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Kirinyaga
- DESIGN: Active and Inactive currency Arkitan Plu
Story Generators Douglas Goodall
ADMIN Changes to the list page J C Lawrence
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19 Chanur Silvarian
Playing catch-up with levels Jeremy Gaffney
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19 Threshold RPG
Bringing in friends Pat Ditterline
- Bringing in friends Amanda Walker
[biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... ceo
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Freeman, Jeff
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Eli Stevens {WG.c}
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Sean Howard
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Mike Rozak
- [biz][tech][dgn][soc] Ten MMOG's you don't want to do... Nathan Yospe
Playing catch-up with levels Steven King
- Playing catch-up with levels Byron Ellacott
Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
MUD-Dev Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23 Alex Chacha
Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
- Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
- - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
  - - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
      - Playing catch-up with levels Amanda Walker
      - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
  - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
  - - Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
      - Playing catch-up with levels Matt Mihaly
        Playing catch-up with levels Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler
        Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
- Playing catch-up with levels Zach Collins {Siege}
- Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
- - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
  - - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
    - - Playing catch-up with levels Sean Howard
      - Playing catch-up with levels Threshold RPG
        Playing catch-up with levels John Buehler