December 2004
- A couple of Wired articles on open-source metaverse and WoW's catering to players Morris Cox
- Too cute Matt Mihaly
- Project Entropia sells the richest land online Zach Collins (Siege)
- ADMIN: We have returned, a bit. J C Lawrence
- Call for Gaming-Related Art and Fiction Sanvean
- MEDIA: MMOs: It's the Economy, Stupid J C Lawrence
- DESIGN: Spreadsheet about activity feedback Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Johan A
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Glen Rosenblatt
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Sporky McBeard
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Michael Hartman
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Koster, Raph
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Douglas Goodall
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Damion Schubert
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? ceo
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Miroslav Silovic
ceo@grexengine.com wrote:
> I think it ranks pretty close to "dieing of hunger every 20
> minutes" in the "RPG player irritation spectrum", no? :)
> Which is silly, since there are plenty of ways to work-in needing
> light without gimping the player, from increasing monster
> perception radiuses to decreasing player radius (compensated for
> by "night-time" skills and abilities) to making torches
> "automatically in use until fight mode is entered, at which time
> the player automatically drops the torch; player automatically
> retrieves torch after combat".
> The really annoying thing is how many games historically have made
> "having the brains + co-ordination to chuck a torch to the ground
> and draw sword" into a massively time-consuming or difficult
> action, taking as long (or longer) than it takes someone to run at
> you from 30ft or more away. *that's* what really gets people's
> backs up, IME.
If the game strives for some level of realism (and the tradeoffs
involved), I don't see why a game character would /want/ to have a
two-hander in an underground cave in the first place. It's noisy,
clumsy, and tends to graze the walls and fellow players just as
often as often as monsters.
Of course, if the game system is derived from AD&D, the answer is
clear: because the designers of AD&D thought that a character should
be forced into a single (rather narrow) weapon type. I think this is
both wrong from the realism value (two-handers are only good in
certain specific situations, and they just get you killed in a duel
against, say, a rapier), and from the gameplay point. It makes much
more sense to build some tradeoffs in each general weapon type, make
all the players reasonably proficient with just about any weapon
(with some smallish bonuses for practice, and accounting for facts
like that Raistlin couldn't lift a morningstar or a two-handed sword
off the ground). So if you are on horseback, you want something with
long reach, and able to just kill the enemies from the distance,
like two hander or a lance. If under ground, you need a light and
something small and convenient - like dual-wielded shortsword and
torch. Yes, you should be able to parry and counter with a torch.
My point is that the bad game designs only annoy players because the
designer neglected to think through all the consequences - the
combinations that work well seem to be discrete islands between the
mismatches.
Miro
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Miroslav Silovic
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Wayne Witzke
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Damion Schubert
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? ceo
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Michael Hartman
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Dana V. Baldwin
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? John Buehler
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Chris Richards
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Alistair Riddoch
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? John Buehler
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Michael Hartman
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Mike Rozak
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? John Buehler
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? olag@ifi.uio.no
- DESIGN: Why do people like weather in MMORPGs? Michael Hartman
- UI scripting gone too far? Derek Licciardi
- UI scripting gone too far? Johan A
- UI scripting gone too far? Damion Schubert
- UI scripting gone too far? Koster, Raph
- MMO Quest: Why they're still lousy Damion Schubert
- MMO Quest: Why they're still lousy Derek Licciardi
- WoW's catering to players (was: A couple of Wired articles on open-source metaverse andWoW's catering to players) Ghilardi Filippo
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Lars Duening
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Richard A. Bartle
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Richard A. Bartle
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games cruise
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games David Johansson
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Richard A. Bartle
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Tom Hunter
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Freeman, Jeff
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Damion Schubert
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Julio Nobrega
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Matthew D. Fuller
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Zach Collins (Siege)
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Eric Random
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Matthew D. Fuller
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Artur Biesiadowski
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games ceo
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Johan A
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games ceo
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Lars Duening
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Johan A
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Lars Duening
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games ceo
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Zach Collins (Siege)
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games ceo
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games olag@ifi.uio.no
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Michael Hartman
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Edward Glowacki
- Metric vs. English System of Measurement in Games Jon A. Lambert
- MEDIA: Blizzard - Virtual Trade Tough Nut to Crack J C Lawrence