June 2002

• In defense of "soloability" ceo@grexengine.com
• • In defense of "soloability" Coyote
• Article: Furniture Whores and Debit Card Toilets J C Lawrence
• Multithreaded sockets Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
• • Multithreaded sockets Sean Kelly
  • Multithreaded sockets szii@sziisoft.com
  • • Multithreaded sockets Bruce Mitchener
    • • Multithreaded sockets Dave Richards
      • • Multithreaded sockets shren
• Fwd: programming books Thomas Leavitt
• ADMIN: MIME and this list J C Lawrence
• Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
• • Striving for originality Sasha Hart
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
  • Striving for originality szii@sziisoft.com
  • • Striving for originality shren
    • • Striving for originality John Buehler
      • • Striving for originality John Bertoglio
        • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
          • • Striving for originality John Bertoglio
            • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
              • • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
                • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
                  • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
                • Striving for originality John A. Bertoglio
              • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
              • • Striving for originality Rudy Fink
        • Striving for originality shren
        • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
          • • Striving for originality John Buehler
            • Striving for originality shren
        • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
        • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • • Striving for originality Travis Casey
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
              • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • Striving for originality Rudy Fink
                • • Striving for originality Caliban Tiresias Darklock
              • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
              • • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
                  • • Striving for originality shren
                    • • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
            • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • Striving for originality shren
          • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • • Striving for originality Ron Gabbard
              • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
          • Striving for originality caduvall@glue.umd.edu
          • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • Striving for originality Rayzam
            • Striving for originality Travis Casey
      • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
      • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
          • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
            • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
              • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
                • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
                • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
                • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
              • Striving for originality Michael Tresca
              • • Striving for originality Rayzam
            • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • Striving for originality Travis Casey
          • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
        • Striving for originality Travis Casey
    • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
    • • Striving for originality szii@sziisoft.com
      • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
          • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
              • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
                • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
        • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
        • • Striving for originality szii@sziisoft.com
        • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
        • • Striving for originality Fred Clift
          • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
    • Striving for originality Marian Griffith
    • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
    • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
    • • Striving for originality szii@sziisoft.com
      • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
  • Striving for originality Sanvean
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
    • • Striving for originality Travis Casey
  • Striving for originality Robin Cloutman
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
  • Striving for originality Freeman, Jeff
  • • Striving for originality shren
• Memory Footprints szii@sziisoft.com
• • Memory Footprints Matt Mihaly
• cloth simulation (was: What keeps people interested in social muds?) Bruce Mitchener
• ADMIN: Early thread death predicted J C Lawrence
• Offlist Matt Mihaly
• Cost/Benefit factor and The Player-driven World [ was In defense of "soloability"] Ron Gabbard
• Building community in social M**s Martin C. Martin
• • Building community in social M**s Damion Schubert
• Brief point about Java memory management ceo@grexengine.com
• Creating Constructive/Social Behaviour in Online Worlds ! Marc Demesel
• ecologies and random encounters John Robert Arras
• • ecologies and random encounters Paul Schwanz
• LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
• • LEDO revisited (part 4) Damion Schubert
  • • LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
  • LEDO revisited (part 4) Crosbie Fitch
  • • LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
• software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Bruce Mitchener
• • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) John Buehler
  • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Miroslav Silovic
  • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Damion Schubert
    • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Damion Schubert
  • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Tess Snider
  • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Bruce Mitchener
• Bug tracking Sanvean
• • Bug tracking Matt Chatterley
  • Bug tracking Ammon Lauritzen
  • Bug tracking Jon Lambert
  • • Bug tracking ceo@grexengine.com
• The Business Side of Software Development [was R& D] Ron Gabbard
• LEDO update Damion Schubert
• • LEDO update Frank Crowell
• Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Ron Gabbard
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Brian Bilek" <brian@darkalley.net>
  > Dave Rickey wrote:
  
  >> With certain narrow exceptions (sports games, mostly), games
  >> don't work that way (at least not yet). You cannot take a
  >> generic product, 99% similar to everything else in the category,
  >> throw lots of money into marketing, and guarantee a profit. This
  >> drives your typical business exec absolutely *nuts*. It hasn't
  >> even matured enough to be handled like music and movies. With
  >> only a handful of exceptions (Sid Meier, Will Wright, John
  >> Carmack, Peter Molynieux, and that's just about the list) you
  >> cannot even bank on particular people to consistently deliver
  >> profitable products. "Past earnings are no guide to future
  >> performance."
  
  > I am quoting the above as a whole because I think you're making a
  > great point. Branding is a wonderful way, and with the case of a
  > good like toothpaste (commonly available, many substitutes, little
  > feature or quality variation), one of the very few ways to
  > differentiate your product. You can even be too good at branding.
  > Another classic business school example: "Band-Aids," or "Q-Tips."
  > When your brand name has become the generic term for a class of
  > products, including your competitors', your marketing dollars are
  > now helping the competition.
  
  True and not true. It's true that the value of your brand can
  become irrelevant if your 'Xerox' brand name becomes the generic
  term for copier. However, being the product category 'icon' helps a
  ton with international sales as there is much greater name
  recognition with an otherwise 'foreign' product. Coke managed to do
  it early on in colas. Marlboro did it with cigarettes. Budweiser
  is trying to do it now in beer. While not to the extent of Xerox,
  Band-Aids, Q-Tips, Jell-O, Scotch tape, or Post-It notes, each of
  these brands achieved a certain degree of 'icon' status and
  leveraged it into greater international sales.
  
  > With a more complex product than toothpaste, you can spend some of
  > your development dollars on changing the feature set of the
  > product, and improving its quality
  
  You can even do this with toothpaste. True P&G story. The Crest
  Brand Management team was charged with increasing sales of Crest
  toothpaste by 7% in the next year. That is a huge amount given that
  there are only so many mouths in the world and competition IS
  fierce. You know what they did? They made a product packaging
  change and increased the size of the mouth of the tube by 7%. They
  leveraged the customer's heuristic (that unquantified, intuitive
  measurement that tells us how much to use of something... like how
  much milk to put on our cereal) that measures the amount of
  toothpaste used by length on the toothbrush... not by volume.
  
  > Computer games are a hybrid, and rather than expecting them to
  > mature into a more commoditized marketplace, or even one that
  > looks like the music business, I envision it as a category unto
  > itself. I'll call it "Interactive entertainment," and while it
  > certainly isn't a mature market, I see it as continuing to differ
  > from pure entertainment, and I never see it becoming commoditized
  > due to the nature of the products.
  
  Some of the biggest factors I see as driving differentiators in
  computer games are 1) cost, 2) development lifecycles, and 3)
  rapidly evolving technology. These games are just growing and
  growing to the point where one game just can't be 'everything to
  everyone'.
  
  Our finance department used a fully-loaded (including benefits and
  overhead) hourly rate of $70/hr for each developer. That equated to
  about $120,000/year per developer given 1600+ work hours/year. (And
  this is in the Midwest where things are a bit cheaper than on the
  coasts). A team of 30 people working on a game racks up some
  serious investment fast. Add in dbase licenses, game engine
  licenses, development software tools, etc. The cost is very high
  for a company that is NOT a multi-billion dollar company.
  
  Now, you have the development lifecycle. 2 years? 3 years? 4
  years? Chances are it depends on the features and functionality you
  plan on having in the game and size of the development team.
  However, there is a time limit where the game company has to say
  "that's it". You can't just rack up $4-5 million a year in costs
  developing a game year after year regardless of what 'neat' features
  may be left on the editing room floor.
  
  Finally, you have the evolving technology. Even if a company DID
  have deep pockets and could sustain a 5+ year development cycle, by
  the time the game went GA it would already be technologically
  outdated. So, you have the technology window compounding the time
  constraint.
  
  The end result is that each game is pushing a particular aspect of
  the genre further and further and making the list of 'desired'
  features longer and longer while the amount of time available to get
  the game out remains constant (or shrinks) and the market becomes
  more competitive.
  
  While I don't want to sound like Malthus, I believe a time will come
  (if it isn't already here) where customer expectations in all these
  various areas will be so high that they can't be met in a single
  game (unless that game is priced well above the average market price
  where the company could afford the X times larger development team).
  These factors, combined with the finite market, will force
  development companies to focus what they do best and target a
  specific player-base. Some may shoot to develop the best, most
  rewarding PvP MMOG combat, others the most immersive 'storytelling'
  MMOG, and others the most 'build-it-yourself' MMOG world.
  
  Thus, branding comes into play... (which ties back to the point
  above)
  
  > Not brand image - In this industry, isn't it somewhat hard to
  > build a brand image based on perception?
  
  Perception alone, yes. However, it's actually much EASIER to build
  a brand image based on perception because that perception is
  verifiable but not that easily comparable across multiple products
  for the average customer due to the time and financial investment
  required to play MMOGs. If a company touts their game as having the
  best customer service in the business and present a 'customer
  friendly' image to the customer, they better make sure they back it
  up. They don't necessarily have to have the 'best' customer
  service... but they DO have to meet and exceed customer
  expectations. All those Volvo ads that tout 'safety' mean nothing
  if I accidentally hit a garbage can while pulling into the garage
  and my fender falls off.
  
  Branding helps companies create customer expectations that they know
  they can meet... and that's important as nothing is worse than
  creating customer expectations then failing to meet them.
  
  > In computer gaming, brand loyalty is almost nonexistant.
  
  Loyalty goes both ways. I've had active accounts in UO, EQ, AO, AC,
  and DAoC for varying lengths of time. I have since cancelled all my
  game accounts except for the one I play. All of these companies
  have my mailing address, email address, and phone number. Sheesh, I
  think some of them even have my birthday (as well as my characters'
  birthdays). Do you know how many communications (outside of the
  generic email newsletters) I have received from the companies with
  whom I no longer do business? One... and it was a generic 'come try
  EQ again' broadcast email.
  
  With the current state of data mining, database marketing, and bulk
  email, not one of these companies could pull up my name, character
  name, etc. to personalize a message and ask me to come back or at
  least ask for feedback as to why I left? (Yeah, I was in database
  marketing before going back to grad school and getting into the
  software industry.) Honestly, customer retention programs in MMOGs
  are piss poor. Even my local pizza place and barber send me a
  Christmas card and a birthday card and I don't spend any more money
  with them than I do on these games. (Note: UO does a nice job of
  rewarding customer loyalty with their in-game 'anniversary' rewards.
  I would be surprised if more companies don't adopt that as it costs
  nothing to give and is a nice way of saying 'thanks, we appreciate
  your business.')
  
  Brand management is a relatively sophisticated marketing skill used
  for fine tuning the product positioning and supporting the overall
  marketing strategy. It seems kind of senseless to worry about that
  while a company still has the basic marketing tasks like the gaping
  wound of customer retention festering away unattended.
  
  Well, enough on that. I just think that if companies would use half
  the creativity marketing the game that they use designing/developing
  the game that they'd have a much more loyal customer base and better
  products as a result.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Ron
• • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Sean Kelly
  • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Koster, Raph
      • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Caliban Tiresias Darklock
        • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Sean Kelly
• GC (was: New Beginings) Bruce Mitchener
• • GC (was: New Beginings) Lars Duening
• Design iterations (Was: R & D) Brian Bilek
• • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Sean Kelly
  • • Design iterations (Was: R & D) John Buehler
  • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Jeff Freeman
  • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Frank Crowell
  • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Amanda Walker
  • • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Ron Gabbard
• Ticks? Anderson, David
• • Ticks? Kwon Ekstrom
  • • Ticks? shren
    • • Ticks? Kwon Ekstrom
      • • Ticks? shren
      • Ticks? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • Ticks? shren
  • Ticks? Dave Richards
  • Ticks? Sasha Hart
  • • Ticks? David B. Held
    • • Ticks? John Buehler
      • • Ticks? David B. Held
        • • Ticks? John Buehler
          • Ticks? Eli Stevens
          • • Ticks? Bruce Mitchener
            • Ticks? David B. Held
    • Ticks? Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
    • • Ticks? Anderson, David
      • Ticks? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • Ticks? Tand'a-ur
  • • Ticks? Matt Mihaly
  • Ticks? Matt Chatterley
  • Ticks? Derek Licciardi
  • Ticks? Edward Glowacki
  • Ticks? Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • Ticks? Damion Schubert
  • Ticks? Miroslav Silovic
• Welcome to the Jungle Jeff Cole
• LithTech Matt Mihaly
• • LithTech Koster, Raph
  • LithTech Valerio Santinelli
  • LithTech ceo@grexengine.com
  • • LithTech Frank Crowell
  • LithTech Frank Crowell
• Ownership Matt Mihaly
• • Ownership Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Ownership Koster, Raph
    • • Ownership Larry Dunlap
      • Ownership Matt Mihaly
      • • Ownership Koster, Raph
        • • Ownership Matt Mihaly
    • Ownership Jeff Cole
  • Ownership Valerio Santinelli
  • Ownership Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
  • • Ownership Marian Griffith
    • • Ownership Damion Schubert
      • • Ownership Matt Mihaly
        • Ownership Marian Griffith
  • Ownership Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Ownership Matt Mihaly
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) J C Lawrence
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Vincent Archer
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Travis Casey
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Michael Tresca
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) David B. Held
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Ron Gabbard
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Crosbie Fitch
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Zach Collins {Siege}
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Koster, Raph
      • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Sasha Hart
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Chatterley
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Sasha Hart
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Michael Tresca
• Object Architecture Ben Chambers
• • Object Architecture Kwon Ekstrom
  • Object Architecture Sasha Hart
  • Object Architecture Brian Lindahl
• New Beginings II [Not GC] Drylar Levre
• • New Beginings II [Not GC] ceo@grexengine.com
  • New Beginings II [Not GC] Sean Kelly
  • • New Beginings II [Not GC] Bruce Mitchener
  • New Beginings II [Not GC] David B. Held
• Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
• • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
  • • Breaking down the walls Acius
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • Breaking down the walls Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
      • • Breaking down the walls Bruce Mitchener
        • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
    • Breaking down the walls Crosbie Fitch
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • • Breaking down the walls Nathan F. Yospe
  • Breaking down the walls shren
  • • Breaking down the walls Jeff Lindsey
    • • Breaking down the walls Bruce Mitchener
    • Breaking down the walls Zach Collins {Siege}
  • Breaking down the walls Matt Mihaly
  • Breaking down the walls Nicolai Hansen
  • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
        • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
          • • Breaking down the walls David B. Held
            • • Breaking down the walls Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
              • • Breaking down the walls Nathan F. Yospe
              • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
      • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
        • • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
          • Breaking down the walls Zach Collins {Siege}
          • Breaking down the walls Christopher Allen
          • Breaking down the walls Colin Coghill
      • Breaking down the walls Rayzam
  • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
  • Breaking down the walls Marian Griffith
  • Breaking down the walls Marian Griffith
• The Future of MMOGs... Brian Lindahl
• • The Future of MMOGs... Talanithus HTML
• Object Architecture [Longish] Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
• • Object Architecture [Longish] David B. Held
  • • Object Architecture [Longish] Crosbie Fitch
• Character Attributes in Role-Playing Games J C Lawrence
• Evolutionary Design J C Lawrence
• • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
  • Evolutionary Design John Buehler
  • Evolutionary Design Dave Rickey
  • • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
    • • Evolutionary Design Koster, Raph
    • Evolutionary Design Matt Mihaly
    • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
    • • Evolutionary Design Madrona Tree
      • • Evolutionary Design Koster, Raph
    • Evolutionary Design danc@anark.com
    • • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
      • • Evolutionary Design Paul Schwanz
        • • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
          • • Evolutionary Design Lars Duening
      • Evolutionary Design Damion Schubert
  • Evolutionary Design Koster, Raph
  • • Evolutionary Design Dave Rickey
    • • Evolutionary Design Brian Hook
      • Evolutionary Design Jeff Cole
      • • Evolutionary Design Jessica Mulligan
        • • Evolutionary Design Jeff Cole
  • Evolutionary Design Dave Trump
  • • Evolutionary Design Ron Gabbard
    • • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
      • • Evolutionary Design rgabbard@swbell.net
        • Evolutionary Design Jeff Cole
        • • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
          • • Evolutionary Design Matt Mihaly
        • Evolutionary Design Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
        • • Evolutionary Design Rudy Fink
      • Evolutionary Design Matt Mihaly
      • • Evolutionary Design rgabbard@swbell.net
      • Evolutionary Design John Buehler
    • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
  • Evolutionary Design Richard A. Bartle
  • Evolutionary Design shren
• Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Steve {Bloo} Daniels
• • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Steve {Bloo} Daniels
  • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Jon Lambert
  • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Rudy Fink
  • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Matt Mihaly
    • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Mark Eaton
      • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Matt Mihaly
• Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) J C Lawrence
• • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Jeff Lindsey
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ron Gabbard
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) David Clifton
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Brian Hook
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
      • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Lars Duening
        • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
          • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
            • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ted L. Chen
      • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Mark Eaton
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Mark Eaton
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ted L. Chen
      • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Patricia Pizer
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Koster, Raph
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) apollyon .
      • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
• Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Matt Chatterley
• • Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Tess Snider
  • Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Matt Mihaly
• Enforcement apollyon .
• • Enforcement Matt Chatterley
  • • Enforcement Anderson, David
  • Enforcement shren
  • Enforcement Anderson, David
• IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Opacic Patrik
• • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas shren
  • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas David Clifton
  • • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Opacic Patrik
  • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Rayzam
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? John Robert Arras
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
• Mudding and impact on academic grades Philip Mak
• • Mudding and impact on academic grades Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Acius
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Fred Clift
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Michael Tresca
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Damion Schubert
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades David Clifton
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Eli Stevens
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Koster, Raph
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
      • Mudding and impact on academic grades Kwon Ekstrom
      • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Matt Mihaly
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades shren
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Colin Coghill
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Lars Duening
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Tess Snider
• Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] David Yazel
• BrendanLand Koster, Raph
• Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Christopher Allen
• • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Bruce Mitchener
  • • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Valerio Santinelli
  • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Travis Casey
  • • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Christopher Allen
• Amazing list.... Talanithus HTML
• Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) Philip Loguinov {Draymoor}
• • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) David B. Held
  • • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) Brian Hook
    • • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) David B. Held
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Frank Crowell
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? John Robert Arras
• Underlight (fwd) Matt Mihaly
• • Underlight (fwd) Bruce Mitchener
  • Underlight (fwd) Brian Lindahl
  • Underlight (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • Underlight (fwd) Brian Hook
    • • Underlight (fwd) Damion Schubert
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG [was The Future of MMOGs... what's next?] Ron Gabbard
• Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Brian Hook
  • • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Frank Crowell
  • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Rayzam
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
• • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG rgabbard@swbell.net
  • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
    • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG rgabbard@swbell.net
      • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
        • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
          • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
            • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
            • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Marian Griffith
            • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Travis Casey
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
              • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Marian Griffith
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Paul Schwanz
              • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Amanda Walker
          • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Damion Schubert
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG [was The Future of MMOGs... what's next?] David B. Held
• Relaunching a MUD? Kent Peterson
• • Relaunching a MUD? Matt Mihaly
  • • Relaunching a MUD? Malcolm Tester
  • Relaunching a MUD? Damion Schubert
• Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Philip Loguinov {Draymoor}
• • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds David Clifton
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds John A. Bertoglio
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Jeff Lindsey
  • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
    • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Jeff Lindsey
      • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Anderson, David
          • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds David Bennett
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Michael Tresca
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Michael Tresca
              • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Sanvean
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds shren
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Dave Rickey
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Dave Rickey
                • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Damion Schubert
                  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Edward Glowacki
      • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
      • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Richard A. Bartle
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
          • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Blane Bramble
        • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds eric
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Edward Glowacki
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Elia Mörling
• GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  J C Lawrence
• • GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  Sasha Hart
  • • GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Online gaming growth Matt Mihaly
• • Online gaming growth Koster, Raph
• Some P.S. to the java/cross platform discussion... ceo@grexengine.com
• • Some P.S. to the java/cross platform discussion... David B. Held
• It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) John A. Bertoglio
• • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Koster, Raph
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) John Bertoglio
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Richard A. Bartle
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Stephen McDonald
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Dave Rickey
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Tess Snider
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Kwon Ekstrom
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) eric
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Vincent Archer
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
      • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
      • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Rudy Fink
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Madrona Tree
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Travis Casey
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) ghovs
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
      • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) ghovs
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) eric
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Joel Palmtag
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Sasha Hart
• Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
• • Continuity of experience in movies eric
  • • Continuity of experience in movies shren
    • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
      • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
        • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
          • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
            • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
              • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
              • Continuity of experience in movies Travis Casey
    • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
    • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
      • • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
        • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
          • • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
    • Continuity of experience in movies Sean Kelly
    • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
• Pictures from an exhibition^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HDinner J C Lawrence
• Online gaming growth -- an introduction Brad King
• The Case For Game Design Patterns J C Lawrence
• • The Case For Game Design Patterns Koster, Raph
• New Skotos Columns Shannon Appelcline
• Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects shren
• • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Richard A. Bartle
  • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Michelle Elbert
  • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Travis Casey
    • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Sean Kelly
      • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Travis Casey
• Tech: Job: Shamesss Pug: P2P Graphical Mud, thinking out loud Yoshito Rei
• • Tech: Job: Shamesss Pug: P2P Graphical Mud, thinking out loud Matt Mihaly
• Threading idea Zach Collins {Siege}
• • Threading idea Smith, David {Lynchburg}
  • • Threading idea Bruce Mitchener
• ADMIN: VC thread -- Consider Meta J C Lawrence
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Vincent Archer
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Freeman, Jeff
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? burra@alum.rpi.edu
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Jeff Freeman
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Matt Mihaly
      • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Frank Crowell
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Sean Kelly
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Xuri
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? David H. Loeser Jr.
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Damion Schubert
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Vincent Archer
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Freeman, Jeff
              • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Sean Kelly
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Jeff Lindsey
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Travis Casey
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Michael Tresca
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Damion Schubert
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
                • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Yannick.Jean@csst.qc.ca
• GNS and Other Matters of Role-Playing Theory J C Lawrence
• Free email providers John Szeder
• • Free email providers Sanvean
• Databases and scripting languages John Szeder
• Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Brian Lindahl
• • Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Paul Schwanz
  • • Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Damion Schubert
• Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Marian Griffith
• • Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Sasha Hart
• It's About Time Dep... Food eric
• • It's About Time Dep... Food Brian Hook
  • It's About Time Dep... Food Edward Glowacki
  • It's About Time Dep... Food John Buehler
  • It's About Time Dep... Food Paul Schwanz
• [BIZ] Console wars David Kennerly
• Free for all ceo@grexengine.com
• It's About Time Dep... Food Sean Page
• Achaea's history Matt Mihaly
• • Achaea's history eric
  • • Achaea's history Matt Mihaly