June 2002

• In defense of "soloability" ceo@grexengine.com
• • In defense of "soloability" Coyote
• Article: Furniture Whores and Debit Card Toilets J C Lawrence
• Multithreaded sockets Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
• • Multithreaded sockets Sean Kelly
  • Multithreaded sockets szii@sziisoft.com
  • • Multithreaded sockets Bruce Mitchener
    • • Multithreaded sockets Dave Richards
      • • Multithreaded sockets shren
• Fwd: programming books Thomas Leavitt
• ADMIN: MIME and this list J C Lawrence
• Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
• • Striving for originality Sasha Hart
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
  • Striving for originality szii@sziisoft.com
  • • Striving for originality shren
    • • Striving for originality John Buehler
      • • Striving for originality John Bertoglio
        • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
          • • Striving for originality John Bertoglio
            • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
              • • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
                • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
                  • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
                • Striving for originality John A. Bertoglio
              • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
              • • Striving for originality Rudy Fink
        • Striving for originality shren
        • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
          • • Striving for originality John Buehler
            • Striving for originality shren
        • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
        • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • • Striving for originality Travis Casey
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
              • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • Striving for originality Rudy Fink
                • • Striving for originality Caliban Tiresias Darklock
              • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
              • • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
                  • • Striving for originality shren
                    • • Striving for originality Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
            • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • • Striving for originality John Buehler
          • Striving for originality shren
          • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • • Striving for originality Ron Gabbard
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          • Striving for originality caduvall@glue.umd.edu
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            • Striving for originality Rayzam
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      • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
      • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
          • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
            • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
              • • Striving for originality Edward Glowacki
                • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
                • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
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              • Striving for originality Michael Tresca
              • • Striving for originality Rayzam
            • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
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            • Striving for originality Travis Casey
          • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
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    • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
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      • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
          • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
              • • Striving for originality Kwon Ekstrom
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        • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
        • • Striving for originality Fred Clift
          • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
            • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
            • Striving for originality Damion Schubert
    • Striving for originality Marian Griffith
    • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
    • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
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      • • Striving for originality Matt Mihaly
  • Striving for originality Sanvean
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
    • • Striving for originality Travis Casey
  • Striving for originality Robin Cloutman
  • • Striving for originality Matt Chatterley
  • Striving for originality Freeman, Jeff
  • • Striving for originality shren
• Memory Footprints szii@sziisoft.com
• • Memory Footprints Matt Mihaly
• cloth simulation (was: What keeps people interested in social muds?) Bruce Mitchener
• ADMIN: Early thread death predicted J C Lawrence
• Offlist Matt Mihaly
• Cost/Benefit factor and The Player-driven World [ was In defense of "soloability"] Ron Gabbard
• Building community in social M**s Martin C. Martin
• • Building community in social M**s Damion Schubert
• Brief point about Java memory management ceo@grexengine.com
• Creating Constructive/Social Behaviour in Online Worlds ! Marc Demesel
• ecologies and random encounters John Robert Arras
• • ecologies and random encounters Paul Schwanz
    From: John Robert Arras <johna@wam.umd.edu>
    
    > I was looking at the recent threads on ecologies and resets and
    > simulations and random encounters of mobs in SWG and the Skotos
    > cellular automata articles and had been kicking around this idea
    > about how to make a big dynamic world without actually creating
    > everything in it. This is an alife/agent simulation that I tried
    > out that works well in a MUD context.
    
    [SNIP of very nice explanation]
    
    > A system like this could be used to cheaply create meaningful
    > dynamic encounters for a huge world. Any comments, ideas? Is
    > anyone currently integrating something like this into their game?
    
    Heh. I've been meaning to write almost this exact same email, but
    haven't found the time. I've been working on the same issue of
    using ecology to determine random encounters, but so far I've been
    approaching it more from the plant and animal level. I haven't yet
    moved up to orc societies and such, but I'll certainly be keeping
    your email handy for when I do. ;) Also, I don't think I'm using
    the cellular automata concepts as much, but maybe I should look into
    it more.
    
    Originally, I wanted to use actual objects (plants, animals, etc.)
    living in the virtual world of Magicosm (www.magicosm.net) to
    simulate an environment, but after talking to our server programmer
    several months ago (who was much more comfortable with random
    encounters for very practical reasons) I hit upon the idea to use
    simulated population levels to determine random encounters. In this
    way, the player still experiences the encounters as a sort of
    feedback regarding the ecology of the area and thus can experience
    changes in the area as a result of his (along with many other
    gamers') actions over time.
    
    Here are some of my random thoughts on a work in progress:
    
    - We could have a rather simplistic ecology for a certain area
    where there are two basic resources affecting population: food
    and cover. For instance, the following could be indigenous to
    a certain area.
    
    - soil fertility is food for clover, berry bushes, and
    trees (soil fertility may be affected by many factors,
    such as rainfall, irrigation, fertilization, magical
    influences, etc.)
    
    - clover is food for rabbits
    
    - berry bushes are food for bears and cover for rabbits
    
    - trees are cover for wolves and bears
    
    - rabbits are food for wolves
    
    - water fertility is food for fish (affected by other
    factors as well)
    
    - fish are food for bears
    
    - While we might not be able to model every tree in the area in
    3D with animations for chopping it down and collecting the
    wood, I do think it is important to give some sort of feedback
    to players as to the basic tree population of the area. So,
    maybe we just use a tree model to represent 10 trees (or 100 or
    whatever). The player might not see any immediate change when
    they "/cut down tree," but over time the forest will look more
    sparse or full as we add and remove tree models. The same
    concept would apply to the other plants as well. Clover
    patches on the ground or berry bush models let the players
    experience plant population levels, while encounters with
    animals help them experience the animal population levels.
    Population levels would be tracked using a grid overlay to
    break the area up into acres, square kilometers, whatever.
    
    - In general, I'd like to see population growth imitate a bell
    curve over population level. So as rabbit population goes from
    min_pop to max_pop, rabbit growth goes from min_growth to
    max_growth (at mu) and eventually back to 0 at max_pop. I'd
    like to do this by using current population as the main
    variable determining growth on the upslope (simplistic growth
    as a percentage of current population might work fine), but
    then have a throttle kick in as the "surplus" of resources
    (food and cover) begin to be taxed. (I really need to get our
    smart math guys to help me figure out the specifics on this.)
    
    - With bell-curve-like population growth in place, the
    population would be healthy when on the right side of the curve
    (since growth actually increases when the population is being
    depleted toward mu on that side of the curve), but if the
    population is depleted to the point that it is on the left side
    of the bell curve (less than mu, the apex of our bell curve),
    then it is in danger, since now growth actually decreases as
    population continues to decrease. (I hope you followed that.
    A whiteboard sure would help.) Since this is the case, it is
    important to set things up so that natural predation doesn't
    push a population backward "over the hump" so to speak. In
    fact, both natural predation *combined with* whatever is deemed
    to be "normal" human predation need to live on the right side
    of the hump. This concept is used to help determine "surplus"
    of resources which in turn acts as the throttle on the
    predator's population growth as well as the predator's max
    population.
    
    - In the end, this is all about giving players interesting
    choices. The output of resources in a certain area can be
    maximized by 1) working to ensure that the impact from
    predators and competitors is minimized, 2) working to ensure
    that food and cover for the resource is maximized, and 3)
    keeping the population level near mu, where growth is highest
    (but making sure you don't let it slip backward over the hump).
    The player also gets to choose which resource gets maximized.
    This can become important to helping supply meet demand in a
    realistic economy, especially where there is a concept of
    player-owned land that can be managed.
    
    - Special "rare" resources become available or are more likely
    to be encountered in areas where a resource becomes more
    "prominent." In other words, if an area is managed such that
    it predominantly consists of clover, it becomes much more
    likely for a player to encounter a four-leaf clover in the
    area, which then can be harvested and used as a reagent in some
    magical spells. Or if it is managed such that it is densely
    forested with trees, there is a greater chance to find a higher
    quality tree to chop down. Rare silver wolves, white rabbits,
    special berries, etc. are all possibilities, depending upon how
    the land is managed. There may even be "levels" so that a
    carefully cultivated oak forest might lead to a few elm, which
    left to multiply might lead to birch, ash, and so on (depending
    upon your particular setup for wood quality). In other words,
    the elm actually "costs" you all of the oak that you could have
    chopped down and used, and so on for the birch, ash, etc.
    
    - So, suppose there is a shortage of four-leaf clover, meaning
    that many magicians are not able to cast important spells. The
    price for four-leaf clover goes up to the point that there is
    quite a big incentive for an individual or group to manage land
    such that it is more likely for four-leaf clover to be
    produced. They do what they can to maximize soil fertility.
    Then they harvest bushes and trees so that the clover gets to
    utilize all of the soil fertility. They also try to kill all
    the rabbits. (Or perhaps they leave a few trees as cover for
    the wolves and try to let the wolves help them keep the rabbit
    population down. Of course, trees provide cover for bears as
    well, and bears might be useful for helping keep the berry bush
    population down.) Soon, the area is covered in clover, making
    it much more likely to find and harvest the four-leaf type.
    (Interesting aside: What will the smart merchant who foresees a
    clover shortage do as it pertains to trees and rabbits, since
    he expects the market may be inundated with both in the near
    future?)
    
    - Other thoughts:
    
    - There could be some sort of migration in place so that
    plants or animals without the surplus resources needed to
    survive attempt to move to an adjacent grid square instead
    of dying off.
    
    - Hunting an animal specifically might increase your
    chances of encountering it, based on your hunting skill.
    A similar mechanism could work for foraging for plants and
    herbs.
    
    - The "encounter" with an animal could consist of finding
    animal "signs" that would then require a tracking skill to
    determine direction and distance to the animal (finding
    other signs along the way may change this assessment).
    These signs can provide valuable information even if you
    are not looking for that particular animal. For instance,
    spotting rabbit tracks might be useful information even if
    you are hunting wolves. They can also help a player
    manage risks. If you spot dragon signs, you may want to
    head the other direction...fast-like.
    
    - Some animals may be trapped and domesticated instead of
    being killed immediately. For instance, you might be able
    to build a rabbit pen (if you have the right building
    materials and skills) and raise rabbits. The pen itself
    would provide "cover" for the rabbits (subject to
    maintenance costs) and you'd need to gather or buy bales
    of clover to give the the rabbits for food. The advantage
    would be that you "encounter" all the rabbits in the pen
    by interacting with it. Similarly, you may be able to put
    together an herb garden for certain types of plants.
    
    - As discussed a few months back in another thread, it
    would still be quite possible to have "genes" that help
    determine plant and animal characteristics and behavior,
    if you wished. This would mean that your rabbit growth
    would be dependant upon the types of rabbits currently
    available and their characteristics, your rabbit deaths to
    predation would be calculated and subtracted from each
    specific type as appropriate, based on their
    characteristics, and your players' rabbit encounters would
    also be dependant upon those same characteristics.
    
    
    Anyway, those are some random thoughts that I believe demonstrate
    that you can still have quite a complex and interesting ecology
    built underneath a pretty simple encounter system.
    
    Thanks for your post. I found it both encouraging and enlightening.
    
    --Phinehas
• LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
• • LEDO revisited (part 4) Damion Schubert
  • • LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
  • LEDO revisited (part 4) Crosbie Fitch
  • • LEDO revisited (part 4) Frank Crowell
• software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Bruce Mitchener
• • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) John Buehler
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  • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Damion Schubert
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      • • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Damion Schubert
  • software engineer: testing (was: [DGN] Creating a MUD) Tess Snider
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• Bug tracking Sanvean
• • Bug tracking Matt Chatterley
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• The Business Side of Software Development [was R& D] Ron Gabbard
• LEDO update Damion Schubert
• • LEDO update Frank Crowell
• Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Ron Gabbard
• • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Sean Kelly
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    • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Koster, Raph
      • • Differentiation and The Marketing of MUDs [was R& D] Caliban Tiresias Darklock
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• GC (was: New Beginings) Bruce Mitchener
• • GC (was: New Beginings) Lars Duening
• Design iterations (Was: R & D) Brian Bilek
• • Design iterations (Was: R & D) Sean Kelly
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• Ticks? Anderson, David
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• Welcome to the Jungle Jeff Cole
• LithTech Matt Mihaly
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  • LithTech ceo@grexengine.com
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• Ownership Matt Mihaly
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• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) J C Lawrence
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Vincent Archer
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) shren
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Travis Casey
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Michael Tresca
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) John Robert Arras
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) David B. Held
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Ron Gabbard
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Crosbie Fitch
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Zach Collins {Siege}
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Koster, Raph
      • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Sasha Hart
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
            • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Chatterley
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Sasha Hart
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Brian Lindahl
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? (fwd) Michael Tresca
• Object Architecture Ben Chambers
• • Object Architecture Kwon Ekstrom
  • Object Architecture Sasha Hart
  • Object Architecture Brian Lindahl
• New Beginings II [Not GC] Drylar Levre
• • New Beginings II [Not GC] ceo@grexengine.com
  • New Beginings II [Not GC] Sean Kelly
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• Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
• • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
  • • Breaking down the walls Acius
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • Breaking down the walls Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
      • • Breaking down the walls Bruce Mitchener
        • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
    • Breaking down the walls Crosbie Fitch
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • • Breaking down the walls Nathan F. Yospe
  • Breaking down the walls shren
  • • Breaking down the walls Jeff Lindsey
    • • Breaking down the walls Bruce Mitchener
    • Breaking down the walls Zach Collins {Siege}
  • Breaking down the walls Matt Mihaly
  • Breaking down the walls Nicolai Hansen
  • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
    • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
        • • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
          • • Breaking down the walls David B. Held
            • • Breaking down the walls Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
              • • Breaking down the walls Nathan F. Yospe
              • Breaking down the walls Brian Lindahl
      • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
      • • Breaking down the walls Matt Chatterley
        • • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
          • Breaking down the walls Zach Collins {Siege}
          • Breaking down the walls Christopher Allen
          • Breaking down the walls Colin Coghill
      • Breaking down the walls Rayzam
  • Breaking down the walls David Clifton
  • Breaking down the walls Marian Griffith
  • Breaking down the walls Marian Griffith
• The Future of MMOGs... Brian Lindahl
• • The Future of MMOGs... Talanithus HTML
• Object Architecture [Longish] Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
• • Object Architecture [Longish] David B. Held
  • • Object Architecture [Longish] Crosbie Fitch
• Character Attributes in Role-Playing Games J C Lawrence
• Evolutionary Design J C Lawrence
• • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
  • Evolutionary Design John Buehler
  • Evolutionary Design Dave Rickey
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    • • Evolutionary Design Madrona Tree
      • • Evolutionary Design Koster, Raph
    • Evolutionary Design danc@anark.com
    • • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
      • • Evolutionary Design Paul Schwanz
        • • Evolutionary Design Sasha Hart
          • • Evolutionary Design Lars Duening
      • Evolutionary Design Damion Schubert
  • Evolutionary Design Koster, Raph
  • • Evolutionary Design Dave Rickey
    • • Evolutionary Design Brian Hook
      • Evolutionary Design Jeff Cole
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  • Evolutionary Design Dave Trump
  • • Evolutionary Design Ron Gabbard
    • • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
      • • Evolutionary Design rgabbard@swbell.net
        • Evolutionary Design Jeff Cole
        • • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
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        • Evolutionary Design Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
        • • Evolutionary Design Rudy Fink
      • Evolutionary Design Matt Mihaly
      • • Evolutionary Design rgabbard@swbell.net
      • Evolutionary Design John Buehler
    • Evolutionary Design Derek Licciardi
  • Evolutionary Design Richard A. Bartle
  • Evolutionary Design shren
• Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Steve {Bloo} Daniels
• • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Steve {Bloo} Daniels
  • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Jon Lambert
  • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Rudy Fink
  • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Matt Mihaly
    • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Mark Eaton
      • • Blacksnow vs. Mythic News Matt Mihaly
• Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) J C Lawrence
• • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Jeff Lindsey
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ron Gabbard
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) David Clifton
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Brian Hook
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
      • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Lars Duening
        • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
          • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Damion Schubert
            • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ted L. Chen
      • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Mark Eaton
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Talanithus HTML
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Mark Eaton
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Ted L. Chen
      • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Matt Mihaly
  • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Patricia Pizer
  • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) Koster, Raph
    • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) apollyon .
      • • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
    • Is difficult communication the barrier to community in MMORPGs? (fwd) John Buehler
• Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Matt Chatterley
• • Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Tess Snider
  • Enforcement [was Striving for originality] Matt Mihaly
• Enforcement apollyon .
• • Enforcement Matt Chatterley
  • • Enforcement Anderson, David
  • Enforcement shren
  • Enforcement Anderson, David
• IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Opacic Patrik
• • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas shren
  • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas David Clifton
  • • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Opacic Patrik
  • IF/MUD Gameplay Ideas Rayzam
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? John Robert Arras
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
• Mudding and impact on academic grades Philip Mak
• • Mudding and impact on academic grades Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Acius
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Fred Clift
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Michael Tresca
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Damion Schubert
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Draymoor a Vin il'Rogina
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades David Clifton
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Eli Stevens
    • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
  • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Koster, Raph
    • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Rayzam
      • Mudding and impact on academic grades Kwon Ekstrom
      • • Mudding and impact on academic grades Matt Mihaly
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades shren
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Anderson, David
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Colin Coghill
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Lars Duening
  • Mudding and impact on academic grades Tess Snider
• Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] David Yazel
• BrendanLand Koster, Raph
• Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Christopher Allen
• • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Bruce Mitchener
  • • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Valerio Santinelli
  • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Travis Casey
  • • Skotos & WAP Release "Grendel's Revenge" for Public Beta Christopher Allen
• Amazing list.... Talanithus HTML
• Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) Philip Loguinov {Draymoor}
• • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) David B. Held
  • • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) Brian Hook
    • • Reinventing the Wheel (was: Object Architecture [Longish]) David B. Held
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Frank Crowell
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? John Robert Arras
• Underlight (fwd) Matt Mihaly
• • Underlight (fwd) Bruce Mitchener
  • Underlight (fwd) Brian Lindahl
  • Underlight (fwd) Koster, Raph
  • • Underlight (fwd) Brian Hook
    • • Underlight (fwd) Damion Schubert
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG [was The Future of MMOGs... what's next?] Ron Gabbard
• Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Brian Hook
  • • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Frank Crowell
  • Cg - Lowering the cost of 3D games? Rayzam
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
• • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG rgabbard@swbell.net
  • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
    • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG rgabbard@swbell.net
      • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
        • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
          • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Brian Lindahl
            • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
            • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Marian Griffith
            • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Travis Casey
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Ron Gabbard
              • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Marian Griffith
              • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Paul Schwanz
              • • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Amanda Walker
          • Building a 'Deeper' MMOG Damion Schubert
• Building a 'Deeper' MMOG [was The Future of MMOGs... what's next?] David B. Held
• Relaunching a MUD? Kent Peterson
• • Relaunching a MUD? Matt Mihaly
  • • Relaunching a MUD? Malcolm Tester
  • Relaunching a MUD? Damion Schubert
• Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Philip Loguinov {Draymoor}
• • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds David Clifton
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds John A. Bertoglio
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Jeff Lindsey
  • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
    • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Jeff Lindsey
      • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Anderson, David
          • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Kwon Ekstrom
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds David Bennett
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Michael Tresca
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Michael Tresca
              • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Sanvean
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds shren
            • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Dave Rickey
            • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Dave Rickey
                • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Damion Schubert
                  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
              • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Edward Glowacki
      • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
      • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Richard A. Bartle
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Matt Mihaly
          • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Blane Bramble
        • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds eric
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Edward Glowacki
  • Text Muds vs Graphical Muds Elia Mörling
• GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  J C Lawrence
• • GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  Sasha Hart
  • • GDC 2002: Beyond Psychological Theory: Getting Data that Improves Games  Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Online gaming growth Matt Mihaly
• • Online gaming growth Koster, Raph
• Some P.S. to the java/cross platform discussion... ceo@grexengine.com
• • Some P.S. to the java/cross platform discussion... David B. Held
• It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) John A. Bertoglio
• • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Koster, Raph
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) John Bertoglio
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Richard A. Bartle
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Stephen McDonald
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Dave Rickey
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Tess Snider
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Kwon Ekstrom
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) eric
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Vincent Archer
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
      • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
      • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Rudy Fink
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Madrona Tree
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Travis Casey
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) ghovs
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
  • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) shren
      • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Valerio Santinelli
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) ghovs
    • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) eric
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Joel Palmtag
  • It's About Time Department (Mule Characters) Sasha Hart
• Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
• • Continuity of experience in movies eric
  • • Continuity of experience in movies shren
    • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
      • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
        • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
          • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
            • • Continuity of experience in movies Valerio Santinelli
              • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
              • Continuity of experience in movies Travis Casey
    • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
    • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
      • • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
        • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
          • • Continuity of experience in movies Matt Mihaly
    • Continuity of experience in movies Sean Kelly
    • • Continuity of experience in movies eric
• Pictures from an exhibition^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HDinner J C Lawrence
• Online gaming growth -- an introduction Brad King
• The Case For Game Design Patterns J C Lawrence
• • The Case For Game Design Patterns Koster, Raph
• New Skotos Columns Shannon Appelcline
• Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects shren
• • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Richard A. Bartle
  • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Michelle Elbert
  • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Travis Casey
    • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Sean Kelly
      • • Animals, Animal Handling, and Unexpected Side Effects Travis Casey
• Tech: Job: Shamesss Pug: P2P Graphical Mud, thinking out loud Yoshito Rei
• • Tech: Job: Shamesss Pug: P2P Graphical Mud, thinking out loud Matt Mihaly
• Threading idea Zach Collins {Siege}
• • Threading idea Smith, David {Lynchburg}
  • • Threading idea Bruce Mitchener
• ADMIN: VC thread -- Consider Meta J C Lawrence
• The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Vincent Archer
• • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Freeman, Jeff
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? burra@alum.rpi.edu
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Jeff Freeman
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Matt Mihaly
      • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Talanithus HTML
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Koster, Raph
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Frank Crowell
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Sean Kelly
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Xuri
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? David H. Loeser Jr.
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Damion Schubert
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Vincent Archer
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
                • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Freeman, Jeff
              • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Sean Kelly
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Valerio Santinelli
    • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Jeff Lindsey
  • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
  • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
      • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Travis Casey
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Amanda Walker
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Michael Tresca
        • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
          • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
          • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Damion Schubert
            • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
              • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? shren
                • • The Future of MMOGs... what's next? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Yannick.Jean@csst.qc.ca
• GNS and Other Matters of Role-Playing Theory J C Lawrence
• Free email providers John Szeder
• • Free email providers Sanvean
• Databases and scripting languages John Szeder
• Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Brian Lindahl
• • Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Paul Schwanz
  • • Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Damion Schubert
• Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Marian Griffith
• • Réf. : Building a 'Deeper' M MOG Sasha Hart
• It's About Time Dep... Food eric
• • It's About Time Dep... Food Brian Hook
  • It's About Time Dep... Food Edward Glowacki
  • It's About Time Dep... Food John Buehler
  • It's About Time Dep... Food Paul Schwanz
• [BIZ] Console wars David Kennerly
• Free for all ceo@grexengine.com
• It's About Time Dep... Food Sean Page
• Achaea's history Matt Mihaly
• • Achaea's history eric
  • • Achaea's history Matt Mihaly