April 2002

• Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
• • Black Snow Revisited Tammie Gorzelsky
  • • Black Snow Revisited Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
    • • Black Snow Revisited John Buehler
      • • Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
        • • Black Snow Revisited John Buehler
          • • Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
        • Black Snow Revisited Marc Bowden
    • Black Snow Revisited Blane Bramble
• Black Snow Revisited Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Black Snow Revisited Matt Mihaly
• Anyone got anything to say about swamps? shren
• Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Jeff Cole
• • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisi ted] Koster, Raph
  • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] John Buehler
    • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Matt Mihaly
      • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] John Buehler
        • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Sean Kelly
        • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Matt Mihaly
      • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] shren
    • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Jeff Cole
    • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Ryan S. Dancey
        • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] shren
  • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Fred Clift
  • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Jeff Cole
    • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Jeff Cole
  • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Brian Bilek
  • • Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Jeff Cole
• Black Snow: The sky is falling? Robert A. Rice Jr.
• Black Snow Revisited Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Black Snow Revisited amanda@alfar.com
  • Black Snow Revisited Matt Mihaly
• Black Snow Revisited Fred Clift
• Everquest blamed for suicide Talies the Wanderer
• • Everquest blamed for suicide Jason Hart
• Death of a game addict Michael Tresca
• • Death of a game addict Marc Bowden
  • • Death of a game addict Matt Mihaly
  • Death of a game addict Dave Rickey
  • Death of a game addict Patricia Pizer
  • • Death of a game addict Matt Mihaly
    • • Death of a game addict Larry Dunlap
  • Death of a game addict David Kennerly
  • • Death of a game addict Brandon J. Van Every
    • Death of a game addict quzah
    • Death of a game addict Marian Griffith
    • Death of a game addict Luke Parrish
    • • Death of a game addict Jon Lambert
  • Death of a game addict John Bertoglio
  • • Death of a game addict Brandon J. Van Every
  • Death of a game addict ghovs
  • • Death of a game addict Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
    • Death of a game addict Richard Woolcock
• Investor Perceptions if BSI wins was( Black Snow Revisited) Derek Licciardi
• Black Snow Revisited Christopher Allen
• the design process Matt Mihaly
• • the design process John Buehler
  • the design process Koster, Raph
• Contract Law. Was: Blacksnow revisted Brian Bilek
• [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Pure Krome
• • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Sean Middleditch
  • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Kwon Ekstrom
    • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Sean Middleditch
      • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Kwon Ekstrom
        • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Sean Middleditch
          • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Kwon Ekstrom
  • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Greg Munt
  • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Kwon Ekstrom
  • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Greg Munt
    • • [DGN] [NEWBIE] Suggestions on (OO) Server Design. Kwon Ekstrom
• OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
• • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Robert Zubek
  • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Miroslav Silovic
    • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Robert Zubek
      • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
    • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
    • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Robert Zubek
      • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
        • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems ? Robert Zubek
    • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Sean Kelly
    • • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
      • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems ? Robert Zubek
  • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Bruce Mitchener
  • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? Joshua Judson Rosen
  • OpenCyc, design implications of ontological systems? dmiles@users.sourceforge.net
• Methods to Foster Relationships? Nick Yee
• • Methods to Foster Relationships? Jeff Lindsey
  • • Methods to Foster Relationships? amanda@alfar.com
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? Richard A. Bartle
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? Sara Jensen
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? Rayzam
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? apollyon .
  • • Methods to Foster Relationships? Marian Griffith
  • Methods to Foster Relationships? Peter Tyson
• [TECH] Shortest-Path William Murdick
• • [TECH] Shortest-Path Bruce Mitchener
  • [TECH] Shortest-Path Ben Greear
  • [TECH] Shortest-Path Amos Wetherbee
  • • [TECH] Shortest-Path Richard A. Bartle
    • [TECH] Shortest-Path Robert Zubek
  • [TECH] Shortest-Path Miroslav Silovic
• Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited] Dr. Cat
• • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited] amanda@alfar.com
  • • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited] Matt Mihaly
    • • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited] Matt Mihaly
  • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited] Matt Mihaly
  • • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited ] Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited ] Matt Mihaly
      • Another Reality Check [was Black Snow Revisited ] shren
• [DGN] MUD developer's motives Brandon J. Van Every
• • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Casbaria
  • • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Brandon J. Van Every
  • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Dave Rickey
  • • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Koster, Raph
    • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Brandon J. Van Every
    • • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Dave Rickey
  • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Shane Gough
  • [DGN] MUD developer's motives John Bertoglio
  • [DGN] MUD developer's motives Patricia Pizer
  • • [DGN] MUD developer's motives shren
  • [DGN] MUD developer's motives David Yazel
• Black Snow Revisited Batir
• Black Snow Revisited - Value Of Time Dave Hochstaetter
• • Black Snow Revisited - Value Of Time Brandon J. Van Every
  • • Black Snow Revisited - Value Of Time Dave Hochstaetter
• Fun in Games Paul Schwanz
• • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
  • • Fun in Games Jeff Freeman
    • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
    • Fun in Games Paul Schwanz
  • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
  • Fun in Games Jeff Freeman
  • Fun in Games John Szeder
  • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
  • Fun in Games Trickey, Rob
  • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
    • • Fun in Games Trickey, Rob
      • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
    • Fun in Games Paul Schwanz
  • Fun in Games Travis Casey
  • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
  • Fun in Games Jason Booth
  • Fun in Games Oreo Cookie
  • Fun in Games John Buehler
  • Fun in Games David Kennerly
  • • Fun in Games Paul Schwanz
    • • Fun in Games David Kennerly
      • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
        • • Fun in Games szii@sziisoft.com
          • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
            • • Fun in Games szii@sziisoft.com
              • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
          • Fun in Games shren
          • • Fun in Games Talies the Wanderer
          • Fun in Games Sasha Hart
          • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
            • • Fun in Games John Buehler
              • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
                • • Fun in Games John Buehler
                  • Fun in Games Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                  • • Fun in Games Ron Gabbard
                • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
                • • Fun in Games Ron Gabbard
                  • Fun in Games John Buehler
                  • • Fun in Games Matt Mihaly
              • Fun in Games Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
                • • Fun in Games Sasha Hart
                  • Fun in Games shren
                  • • Fun in Games Damion Schubert
                  • Fun in Games Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                  • • Fun in Games Jasper McChesney
                    • • Fun in Games John Buehler
                      • • Fun in Games Ron Gabbard
                        • • Fun in Games John Buehler
                          • Fun in Games Adam Dray
                          • • Fun in Games Ron Gabbard
                            • • Fun in Games Damion Schubert
                              • • Fun in Games Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                                • Fun in Games Tess Snider
                • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
                • Fun in Games Ron Gabbard
                • • Fun in Games John Buehler
        • Fun in Games Brandon J. Van Every
  • Fun in Games David Kennerly
  • • Fun in Games Koster, Raph
    • • Fun in Games David Kennerly
• What do game companies look for? Talies the Wanderer
• Black Snow Revisited Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
• • Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
  • • Black Snow Revisited Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
    • • Black Snow Revisited holding99@mindspring.com
• Thank you from MudWorld ucmm@inetsolve.com
• Re:Blacksnow revisited Norman Short
• • Re:Blacksnow revisited John Buehler
  • Re:Blacksnow revisited Paul Schwanz
  • Re:Blacksnow revisited Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • Re:Blacksnow revisited Kylotan
  • • Re:Blacksnow revisited Norman Short
    • • Re:Blacksnow revisited Matt Mihaly
      • • Re:Blacksnow revisited Joe Andrieu
        • • Re:Blacksnow revisited Matt Mihaly
      • Re:Blacksnow revisited Damion Schubert
• G4 cable channel Koster, Raph
• • G4 cable channel Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • G4 cable channel Koster, Raph
    • • G4 cable channel Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
      • • G4 cable channel Valerio Santinelli
        • G4 cable channel Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • G4 cable channel John Bertoglio
  • • G4 cable channel Amanda Walker
• [MLP] NPC Complexity shren
• • [MLP] NPC Complexity Eli Stevens
  • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Koster, Raph
  • [MLP] NPC Complexity Peter Tyson
  • • [MLP] NPC Complexity shren
    • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Sean Kelly
      • • [MLP] NPC Complexity shren
        • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Sean Kelly
        • [MLP] NPC Complexity Kwon Ekstrom
        • • [MLP] NPC Complexity shren
          • [MLP] NPC Complexity Sean Kelly
          • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Kwon Ekstrom
            • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
              • • [MLP] NPC Complexity Kwon Ekstrom
• META: What do game companies look for? Eli Stevens
• Reality check ...(long) [was Black Snow Revisited] Miroslav Silovic
• Virtual Societies Dave Rickey
• DGN: The Grand List Of Console Role Playing Game Clichés Michael Tresca
• MUDs and societal transformations Brandon J. Van Every
• • MUDs and societal transformations shren
  • MUDs and societal transformations Marc Bowden
  • • MUDs and societal transformations Brandon J. Van Every
    • • MUDs and societal transformations Koster, Raph
      • • MUDs and societal transformations Brandon J. Van Every
      • MUDs and societal transformations Marc Bowden
• Reality check ... Dave Rickey
• • Reality check ... Marc Bowden
  • • Reality check ... Vincent Archer
    • • Reality check ... Jon Leonard
  • Reality check ... John Buehler
  • Reality check ... Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • Reality check ... Dave Rickey
• Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Marc Demesel
• • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Tamzen Cannoy
  • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Brandon J. Van Every
  • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Marc Bowden
  • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Shane Gough
  • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Brandon J. Van Every
    • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? John Buehler
      • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Brandon J. Van Every
        • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? John Buehler
  • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Sasha Hart
  • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Brandon J. Van Every
    • • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? Sasha Hart
    • Dilemmas in a (game) designer's life ? shren
• [Biz] Games investment Peter Tyson
• Legal enforcement mechanisms (was Re:Blacksnow revisited) Jon Leonard
• • Legal enforcement mechanisms (was Re:Blacksnow revisited) Matt Mihaly
• OT: 1 free introductory post Dan Scott
• Client platforms for rapid development of experimental worlds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • Client platforms for rapid development of experimental worlds John Bertoglio
  • Client platforms for rapid development of experimental worlds Zach Collins {Siege}
  • Client platforms for rapid development of experimental worlds Bruce Mitchener
  • Client platforms for rapid development of experimental worlds Bruce Mitchener
• ADMIN: Thread deaths J C Lawrence
• Player matching in MMOGs (was Blacksnow revisited) Brandon J. Van Every
• Happy healthy players (was Blacksnow revisited) Brandon J. Van Every
• • Happy healthy players (was Blacksnow revisited) Kylotan
  • • Happy healthy players (was Blacksnow revisited) Brandon J. Van Every
    • • Happy healthy players (was Blacksnow revisited) Matt Mihaly
      • Happy healthy players (was Blacksnow revisited) Kylotan
• [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sasha Hart
• • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sean Kelly
  • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) shren
    • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Talies the Wanderer
      • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Matt Mihaly
      • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sean Kelly
      • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Paul Schwanz
        • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sean Kelly
        • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Damion Schubert
        • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexit y) Koster, Raph
          • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sean Kelly
            • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) David Kennerly
            • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexit y) Mark Eaton
            • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexit y) Freeman, Jeff
              • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexit y) Damion Schubert
            • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexit y) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Matt Mihaly
    • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Sean Kelly
      • • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Damion Schubert
        • [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Complexity) Matt Mihaly
• Avatars/character stables (was: Black Snow Revisited) Jon Leonard
• [TECH] [DGN] Hyper-realistic MUD David B. Held
• Progress of MUD32 Matt Owen
• Japanese wireless MUD Peter Tyson
• How much is enough? Justin Coleman
• • How much is enough? Brian Hook
  • • How much is enough? Justin Coleman
    • • How much is enough? Damion Schubert
    • How much is enough? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • How much is enough? Brandon J. Van Every
      • How much is enough? Damion Schubert
      • • How much is enough? Ron Gabbard
  • How much is enough? Sean Middleditch
  • • How much is enough? Talies the Wanderer
    • • How much is enough? Sean Middleditch
      • How much is enough? Kwon Ekstrom
      • How much is enough? David B. Held
      • • How much is enough? Ron Gabbard
        • • How much is enough? Justin Coleman
      • How much is enough? Matt Mihaly
  • How much is enough? Vincent Archer
  • • How much is enough? Matt Mihaly
  • How much is enough? Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • How much is enough? Leverett, William
  • • How much is enough? Matt Mihaly
  • How much is enough? szii@sziisoft.com
  • How much is enough? Kwon Ekstrom
  • How much is enough? Matt Mihaly
  • How much is enough? Damion Schubert
  • How much is enough? Sasha Hart
• TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) Eric Merritt
• • TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) szii@sziisoft.com
  • • TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) Bruce Mitchener
  • TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) szii@sziisoft.com
  • TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) Bruce Mitchener
  • • TECH: Concurrent Process Based Mud (Somewhat Long) Eric Merritt
• Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Tand'a-ur
• • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Matt Owen
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Sean Middleditch
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD szii@sziisoft.com
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Crosbie Fitch
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Tand'a-ur
  • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD John Bertoglio
    • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD John Buehler
      • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Tand'a-ur
        • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD John Buehler
        • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD John A. Bertoglio
    • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Sanvean
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Crosbie Fitch
  • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Damion Schubert
  • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD lynx@lynx.purrsia.com
    • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Damion Schubert
    • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Brian 'Psychochild' Green
    • • Player Accounts on a Non-Commercial MUD Damion Schubert
• Re:Re:Blacksnow revisited maddog@maddog.com
• Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Ron Gabbard
• • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Sean Kelly
  • • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Damion Schubert
    • • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization John Buehler
      • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization David B. Held
      • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization shren
      • • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Sean Kelly
  • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization shren
  • • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Ron Gabbard
    • • Realistic Ecological Models, Differentiating Areas by Difficulty, and Socialization Marian Griffith
• Angry Gamer (was: Blacksnow revisited) Daniel Fischer
• Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Koster, Raph
• • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Sasha Hart
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Koster, Raph
  • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Madrona Tree
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Scott Jennings
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
  • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Dave Rickey
    • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
      • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Dave Rickey
        • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
          • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Dave Rickey
            • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Rayzam
              • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
              • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Clay
              • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Damion Schubert
              • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Freeman, Jeff
                • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Nick Yee
      • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Nick Yee
      • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
        • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Nicholas Yee
          • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
              Nicholas Yee writes:
              
              > Bartle's Explorer type focused on mapping a world's topology, and
              > a general interest in experimenting with and learning about the
              > game's mechanics. My data showed that these 2 aspects were not
              > correlated. And then I tried to see whether I could focus on the
              > "interest in game mechanics" aspect with these statements:
              
              In reading Bartle's paper again, it occurs to me that I would never
              have used the term 'explorer' for what he describes. "Knowledge
              achiever" or "Knowledge socializer" is probably more appropriate.
              By Bartle's metrics, I am not an explorer in his terminology, but I
              am most certainly an explorer by nature. To me, an explorer is
              someone who likes to see the new. End of story. Beyond that
              exploration motivation is the question of what someone does with the
              knowledge that exploration brings. Do they use it to socialize,
              compete, or some other pursuit? For me, exploration IS a
              motivation. I suspect that, for many, exploration is only a
              necessary prerequisite to other goals.
              
              So I may just chalk this whole thing up to a misunderstanding of
              what you were attempting to determine. You were considering the
              possibility of explorers existing, but only as defined by Bartle -
              which has been the standard by which we carry on these
              conversations, of course.
              
              > One way to look at this is that the Explorer motivation (just the
              > game mechanics part) might exist but has very little explanatory
              > power. In other words, knowing whether someone scores high/low on
              > the Explorer motivation doesn't tell us much else about why they
              > play - that it isn't a primary factor.
              
              That I can believe. I suspect that questions that examine only the
              exploration motive, and not the motivations that lie beyond
              exploration (i.e. why players explore), would uncover a number of
              explorers.
              
              > Instead, the results show that if you could only ask a player 5
              > questions to understand why they play, you should ask:
              
              > - How interested are they in forming long-term relationships?
              
              > - How important is it to them to set and achieve goals?
              
              > - How appealing is it to be immersed in a fantasy world?
              
              > - Do they enjoy grouping and drift to leadership positions when
              > in a group?
              
              > - Do they use other players for their own ends?
              
              
              How about adding "When you find out about something new in the game,
              how much do you look forward to experiencing it?" Unfortunately,
              even that is a loaded question because it may mask the player's
              desire to get that information so that they can do such-and-such
              with it.
              
              > So at the moment, I'm leaning towards the weak explanatory power
              > hypothesis - that some people do play because they like tinkering
              > with the game mechanics, but measuring their motivations on other
              > factors gives you far greater insight into their in-game behavior
              > and overall motivation.
              
              Given the definition of Bartle's 'explorer', I'm inclined to agree.
              Personally, I like experiencing new stuff simply because it's new.
              I'm not very interested in collecting the data in order to provide a
              service to the community (socializing), I'm not interested in being
              the first to know about a new spell or system so that I can be
              praised for my discovery (achiever), and I'm not interested in
              finding out about a secret passage so that I can sneak up and kill
              my enemies (killer). I just like experiencing the new. That's what
              I consider to be an explorer.
              
              Q: "Why did you climb the mountain?"
              
              A: "Because it was there."
              
              Explorer.
              
              JB
            • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
              • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
                • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
                  • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
                    • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Steve {Bloo} Daniels
                    • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
                      • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Steve {Bloo} Daniels
                        • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
                          • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Marian Griffith
                            • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
                      • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Marian Griffith
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies shren
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Dave Rickey
  • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Brad McQuaid
    • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies John Buehler
    • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Dave Rickey
      • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Matt Mihaly
        • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard Woolcock
    • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Madrona Tree
    • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
      • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Madrona Tree
        • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Freeman, Jeff
  • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
  • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Matt Mihaly
    • • Codename Blue & Facets - Nick Yee's new studies Richard A. Bartle
• [TECH] Preloading path information William Murdick
• • [TECH] Preloading path information Kevin Mack
• [TECH] Follow-up to Shortest Path William Murdick
• Fun in Games (Long) Ron Gabbard
• • Fun in Games (Long) Brandon J. Van Every
• Games are not speech? Koster, Raph
• • Games are not speech? Jeff Cole
  • Games are not speech? Sean Kelly
  • • Games are not speech? Dave Rickey
  • Games are not speech? Ron Gabbard
  • Games are not speech? Crosbie Fitch
• How much is enough? Communication design Ron Gabbard
• • How much is enough? Communication design Miroslav Silovic
  • • How much is enough? Communication design David B. Held
    • • How much is enough? Communication design Travis Casey
      • • How much is enough? Communication design Ben Chambers
    • How much is enough? Communication design Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • How much is enough? Communication design Damion Schubert
    • • How much is enough? Communication design Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • How much is enough? Communication design shren
        • How much is enough? Communication design John Buehler
        • • How much is enough? Communication design Damion Schubert
• The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Peter Tyson
• • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Sean Kelly
  • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs William Murdick
  • • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Ammon Lauritzen
  • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Adam
  • • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Peter Tyson
  • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs shren
  • • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Kwon Ekstrom
    • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Damion Schubert
    • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Sean Kelly
  • The quandry of mob combat in MUDs Edward Glowacki
• How much is enough? Communication design Sasha Hart
• [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) Sasha Hart
• • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) Sean Kelly
  • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) shren
    • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) T o F
      • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) shren
      • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) Sean Kelly
      • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecology models) Travis Casey
  • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) Sasha Hart
    • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) Vincent Archer
    • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) shren
      • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) Damion Schubert
        • • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) shren
          • [MLP] Why care about levels? (was: The use of ecolo gy models) Travis Casey
• Realistic Ecological Models Sasha Hart
• • Realistic Ecological Models David B. Held
  • Realistic Ecological Models Mike Shaver
  • Realistic Ecological Models Leland Hulbert II
  • • Realistic Ecological Models Sasha Hart
    • • Realistic Ecological Models Leland Hulbert II
    • Realistic Ecological Models David B. Held
• Size of player-organizations Adam
• [Meta] [MLP] The use of ecology models (was: NPC Co mplexity) Koster, Raph
• The quandary of mob combat in MUDs Peter Tyson
• • The quandary of mob combat in MUDs John Buehler
• Developing A Web Generator Kyndig
• • Developing A Web Generator Kwon Ekstrom
  • Developing A Web Generator John A. Bertoglio
  • Developing A Web Generator szii@sziisoft.com
  • • Developing A Web Generator shren
  • Developing A Web Generator Derek Snider
• Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Jeff Cole
• • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Kwon Ekstrom
  • • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Jeff Cole
    • • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Kwon Ekstrom
    • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Zach Collins {Siege}
    • • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) Kwon Ekstrom
      • Powergaming (was How much is enough?) shren
• Fun in Games (the Fun Dogma) Clay
• • Fun in Games (the Fun Dogma) David Kennerly
  • • Fun in Games (the Fun Dogma) Ron Gabbard
• Skotos Cellular Automata Simulation System - a Technical Summary (LONG) Christopher Allen
• • Skotos Cellular Automata Simulation System - a Technical Summary (LONG) Sasha Hart
  • • Skotos Cellular Automata Simulation System - a Technical Summary (LONG) Christopher Allen