December 2002
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Marc De Mesel
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Rayzam
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Dave Rickey
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Jon A. Lambert
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Richard A. Bartle
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Terrence Martin
- Retention without Addiction? Acius
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Matthew Dobervich
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Damion Schubert
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Rickey
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Sean Kelly
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? sean@ffwd.cx
- Retention without Addiction? sean@ffwd.cx
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Matthew Dobervich
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Trump
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Kwon Ekstrom
- Retention without Addiction? Sean Kelly
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? Brian Hook
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Lars Duening
- Retention without Addiction? amanda@alfar.com
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Wes Connell
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Wes Connell
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? ceo@grexengine.com
- Retention without Addiction? Tom Hubina
- Retention without Addiction? Sage
- Retention without Addiction? Acius
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? brian hook
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Chris Holko
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Marian Griffith
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Vincent Archer
- Retention without Addiction? Lars Duening
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Rickey
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Sage
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Clay
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Kwon Ekstrom
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Gamespy - Mod Support in the Game World Frank Crowell
- Free FFT Christopher Kohnert
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Koster, Raph
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Marc Fielding
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism shren
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Sean Kelly
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Koster, Raph
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism amanda@alfar.com
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Vincent Archer
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Marc Hernandez
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Matt Mihaly
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Andrew L. Tepper
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Amanda Walker
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? amanda@alfar.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Marc Fielding
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? shren
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sean Kelly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? Ted L. Chen
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Robert Zubek
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? rayzam
- AI not worth doing in our games? Marian Griffith
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Matt Mihaly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Matt Mihaly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Travis Casey
- AI not worth doing in our games? amanda@alfar.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Christer Enfors
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime amanda@alfar.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matthew Dobervich
- Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Total Annilation of Downtime Jessica Mulligan
- Total Annilation of Downtime Justin Quimby
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Chris Holko
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Total Annilation of Downtime J C Lawrence
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Sanvean
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Steven J. Owens
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Brad McQuaid
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Brad McQuaid
- Total Annilation of Downtime Frank Crowell
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Freeman, Jeff
- Total Annilation of Downtime Vincent Archer
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Damion Schubert
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? (Koster, Raph) Dr. Cat
- MudDev FAQ - part I Marian Griffith
- MudDev FAQ - part II Marian Griffith
- But wait, there's more... Dave Rickey
- Where are raids from? Where are they going? Vladimir Cole
- MMOG Production Costs vs. Audience Growth (was Online Games Fighting Terrorism) Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Sean Kelly
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Damion Schubert
- Yikes Amanda Walker
- reputation system references Bruce Mitchener
- expansion packs Matt Mihaly
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Dave Rickey
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs Koster, Raph
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Damion Schubert
- expansion packs Derek Licciardi
- expansion packs Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs kressilac@insightbb.com
- (no subject) Kent Peterson
- (no subject) Rayzam
- New Scientist Article... B.Beuger
- New Scientist Article... Rayzam
- New Scientist Article... Marc Fielding
- Questing (was AI not worth doing in our games?) Vincent Archer
- Description Content was: Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Complexities of Retention without Addiction? WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Complexities of Server Implementation? WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Justice Ocker
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot John Robert Arras
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Justice Ocker
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Marc Fielding
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot John Robert Arras
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Damion Schubert
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Wes Connell
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Damion Schubert
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Instancing, or Franchising? Dr. Cat
- Questions about my MUD design Christer Enfors
- Questions about my MUD design Peter Harkins
- Questions about my MUD design kressilac@insightbb.com
- Questions about my MUD design Wes Connell
- Questions about my MUD design eric leaf
- Questions about my MUD design Timothy Dang
- Questions about my MUD design Christer Enfors
- Questions about my MUD design marsian@desert-island.m.isar.de
- Towards virtual worlds (and the failure of the current industry) Marcdemesel@hotmail.com
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Sean Kelly
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Sean Kelly
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without A ddiction?) Koster, Raph
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Zach Collins {Siege}
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) shren
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dave Rickey
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Complexities of MMOG Servers WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. ra-whiteside@attbi.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Kwon Ekstrom
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Dave Rickey
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Damion Schubert
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Matt Mihaly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Josh Goldshlag
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. shren
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Marc LaFleur
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Robert Zubek
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Marc Fielding
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Is database access a bottleneck? Derek Licciardi
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Dave Rickey
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? ceo@grexengine.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Travis Nixon
- Is database access a bottleneck? Travis Nixon
- Is database access a bottleneck? Bruce Mitchener
- Is database access a bottleneck? Miroslav Silovic
- Is database access a bottleneck? Chris Holko
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Java Serialization ceo@grexengine.com
- Java Serialization Kwon Ekstrom
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- Habitat papers? J C Lawrence
- Habitat papers? Koster, Raph
- Habitat papers? Damion Schubert
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- Habitat papers? F. Randall Farmer
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- ADMIN: Post formatting J C Lawrence
- Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck) Kebernet
- Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck) bradley newton haug
- Game industry (was Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck)) Amanda Walker
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Dave Rickey
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Marc Fielding
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Wes Connell
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Marc Fielding
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Richard A. Bartle
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Dave Rickey
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Christopher Kohnert
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Wes Connell
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Dubious Advocate
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Serve rs) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Dubious Advocate
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Amanda Walker
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServer s) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Jon A. Lambert
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServer s) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Matt Mihaly
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Martin Bassie
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Corey Crawford
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Dave Rickey
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime brian hook
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Hanz, Rob
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Christopher Allen
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Travis Nixon
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Dubious Advocate
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Ling Lo
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Ted L. Chen
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Zach Collins {Siege}
- Subject Skewage was: Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Jo Dillon
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Jo Dillon
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Koster, Raph
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Valerio Santinelli
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Wes Connell
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Acius
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Wes Connell
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dave Rickey
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Mike Shaver
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Mike Shaver
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Kent Peterson
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Peter Harkins
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server John Erskine
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server John Erskine
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server frosty@its.to
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Justin Stocks
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Justin Stocks
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Eric Hu
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ted L. Chen
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server amanda@alfar.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Eric Hu
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Sasha Hart
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Koster, Raph
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
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From: "Marc Fielding" <fielding@computer.org>
> [ Caliban Tiresias Darklock ]
>> I strongly disagree with that idea. It is not so much that the
>> barrier to entry needs to be lowered, as much as that the
>> distance you drop on the other side needs to be
>> lessened. Lowering barriers to entry does this, but so too does
>> increasing the quality of the product on the other side. If you
>> make the other side worthy of climbing the wall, people will
>> climb it no matter how high it is.
> Hybridize it then. High quality will attract customers. High
> quality WITH Rookie Management System (RMS) with attract more!
> They need not be mutually exclusive.
However, high quality *keeps* players, and rookie management
doesn't. Once a new player becomes an established player, all the
wonderful little things that made your game so easy to learn in the
first place become... well, a big pain in the ass.
Besides, to me, RMS means "Richard M.Stallman" and leaves a bad
taste in my mouth. ;)
>> Is it the job of a game to raise gamers who can play *this* game,
>> or gamers who can play *any* game?
> I'm not looking at it from the perspective of a single game. I'm
> turning the problem around and asking "What features do games need
> to attract new players?"
The question's overly simplistic. What kind of games, and what kind
of new players? Do you want to make an RPG that appeals to people
who don't usually play RPGs? An MMOG that appeals to "Command and
Conquer" players? What's your specific goal? You just can't get
anywhere with a question this generic.
The easy answer, and the one I'd be considering around now, is "what
are the most attainable features a new MMOG needs to attract a large
playerbase quickly and keep most of them?" -- which is something
many large companies are wondering right now. But "coddling newbies"
isn't in that featurelist.
> I think you're assuming too much. A rookie player doesn't think in
> terms of "large investments" and "payoffs".
Well, of course not. Only developers do. Likewise, the guy at the
grocery store doesn't buy based on brand leadership, he buys based
on a perception that a product is better -- but while he would swear
up and down that brand leadership doesn't make a product better,
he'll still tend to buy the brand leader because he thinks it's
obviously better if so many other people use it. There's a very
complex interaction there which consumers in general despise and
deny, but which works all the same.
Customers don't know what they want or why. They just know it when
they see it. Which is why we're asking each other this question,
instead of the consumers.
> He wants to be entertained. High complexity detracts from that
> entertainment.
High *required* complexity, yes. But high *available* complexity
gives him something to explore and use to his advantage down the
road. The difficult part is to figure out how exactly you can give
the advanced player lots of options without making him inherently
superior to the new player.
To date, we've usually answered this question by putting the
complexity in the environment rather than the characters. A
character is a character, but there's this complex world where he
can adventure. You can stay in the simple areas, but then you have
to move on to the more advanced places. The only problem with this
is that content creation is expensive. You build an area over the
course of several months, and the average player who wants to
explore it will do so in a day or two. You just can't keep up.
That's why I think the complexity belongs in the character. You hand
the player one character and give him adequate opportunity to mold
and shape that character without getting stuck, experimenting with
different ideas and shuffling things around until he feels satisfied
with the result. If you put the complexity in the environment, it
belongs to everyone. Put it in the character, and it belongs to the
individual player. That sense of ownership is important.
> Minimize his initial complexity and he gets a faster "ROI" (as
> you'd likely put it).
However, a lack of complexity is where boredom takes hold, and
boredom is exactly what you don't want in an online game.
>>> You don't give a Kalahari Bushman a bit of "Rum-Raisin Swirl"
>>> for a first taste. That would be overwhelming and somewhat of a
>>> waste.
>> I find this statement *terribly* condescending and arrogant. Just
>> because they're new to the concept doesn't mean they're stupid
>> and unable to appreciate things. Some people *want* to be
>> overwhelmed, and an MMOG *ought* to be overwhelming anyway.
> Excuse me? It's a simple matter of pragmatism. The rookie will be
> sufficiently overwhelmed just by experiencing the standard game
> world.
But you're not advocating a standard game world. You're advocating a
newbie game world where things are easy and simple and we don't
offend their nascent tastes before they're ready.
> The extra complexity you're advocating just gets you diminishing
> returns with the increased risk of newbie confusion.
Newbies aren't confused by complex games. They're confused by
complex *interfaces* or complex *environments*. You HAVE to interact
with the interface and the environment. Everything you HAVE to do is
a problem for newbies, because they have to learn more stuff. But
everything you CAN do is a benefit to established players, because
they have more things to occupy their interest. You want to keep
what you HAVE to do as low as possible, while still raising what you
CAN do as high as possible. Fewer requirements, more possibilities.
Which is yet another reason the environment is the wrong place to
add your complexity, by the by. Unfortunately, it's hard to alter
all those characters after release...
>> Do you actually teach people at all? Because I think you've got
>> some really bad ideas about how people want to learn. Most people
>> don't want to learn at all, and this *is* a game, so you really
>> need to get out of their way and let them play.
> For the abject initiate, a straightforward in-game training
> procedure is invaluable. A spectrum of decreasing simplification
> can be applied to more skilled beginners all the way up to the
> veteran level.
I would agree it's invaluable, because each player will place a
different value on it; most of them, however, will place a very
*low* value on it. As far as decreasing simplification, that's an
extremely difficult thing to do, and I've never seen it done well
anywhere. I would go so far as to say that I don't believe it's
possible to do well in the first place, and that any efforts in that
direction are almost certainly wasted without some kind of quantum
leap in conception.
The biggest problem is that people assume all players learn at
roughly the same rate, which is just plain stupid. You can't provide
a smooth slope for Joe Idiot that works for Bob Genius, too. One of
them is simply not going to fit in.
>> If you send a redneck to film school, you don't get a film
>> critic, you just get a redneck with a film degree. You can't
>> *create* a cultured individual with refined tastes, you have to
>> recognise him when he comes along.
> Wow, talk about "condescension and arrogance"!
It doesn't matter how condescending and arrogant he is, he's still
not a film critic.
(Man, did you fall for THAT one.)
> Have you never heard of "diamonds in the rough?"
That's exactly what I'm talking about. A diamond in the rough can be
made into a fantastic gem, but it has to be a diamond in the first
place. You can't polish a turd. No amount of schooling will *make*
people what you want them to be.
> Refinement results from an individual's desire for education and
> exposure to new ideas.
And how exactly do you propose to give that to someone?
You probably can't. By the time you get to them, they either have it
or they don't.
> Those with narrow worldviews are likely casualties of that
> process.
What you WANT and what you HAVE are two different things. Don't
confuse them. A narrow worldview is not an *automatic* indicator of
stupidity or a lack of ambition; it may simply be a lack of
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