December 2002
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Marc De Mesel
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Rayzam
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Dave Rickey
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Jon A. Lambert
- Towards virtual worlds ... (and the failure of the current industry) Richard A. Bartle
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Terrence Martin
- Retention without Addiction? Acius
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Matthew Dobervich
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Damion Schubert
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Rickey
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Sean Kelly
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? sean@ffwd.cx
- Retention without Addiction? sean@ffwd.cx
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Valerio Santinelli
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Matthew Dobervich
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Trump
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Kwon Ekstrom
- Retention without Addiction? Sean Kelly
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? Brian Hook
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Lars Duening
- Retention without Addiction? amanda@alfar.com
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Wes Connell
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Wes Connell
- Retention without Addiction? Freeman, Jeff
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? ceo@grexengine.com
- Retention without Addiction? Tom Hubina
- Retention without Addiction? Sage
- Retention without Addiction? Acius
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? brian hook
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Chris Holko
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Marian Griffith
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Retention without Addiction? Vincent Archer
- Retention without Addiction? Lars Duening
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Eric Hu
- Retention without Addiction? shren
- Retention without Addiction? Dave Rickey
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Paul Schwanz
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Ted L. Chen
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? Sage
- Retention without Addiction? Madrona Tree
- Retention without Addiction? Clay
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Kwon Ekstrom
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Jessica Mulligan
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? rayzam
- Retention without Addiction? Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? Marc Fielding
- Retention without Addiction? Matt Mihaly
- Retention without Addiction? Sasha Hart
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Retention without Addiction? Koster, Raph
- Retention without Addiction? bradley newton haug
- Gamespy - Mod Support in the Game World Frank Crowell
- Free FFT Christopher Kohnert
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Koster, Raph
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Marc Fielding
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism shren
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Sean Kelly
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Koster, Raph
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism amanda@alfar.com
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Dave Rickey
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Vincent Archer
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Marc Hernandez
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Matt Mihaly
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Andrew L. Tepper
- Online Games Fighting Terrorism Amanda Walker
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? amanda@alfar.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Marc Fielding
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? shren
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sean Kelly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Freeman, Jeff
- AI not worth doing in our games? Ted L. Chen
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Robert Zubek
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? rayzam
- AI not worth doing in our games? Marian Griffith
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? David H. Loeser Jr.
- AI not worth doing in our games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Matt Mihaly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Kwon Ekstrom
- AI not worth doing in our games? Matt Mihaly
- AI not worth doing in our games? Travis Casey
- AI not worth doing in our games? amanda@alfar.com
- AI not worth doing in our games? Damion Schubert
- AI not worth doing in our games? Sasha Hart
- AI not worth doing in our games? Christer Enfors
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime amanda@alfar.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matthew Dobervich
- Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Total Annilation of Downtime Jessica Mulligan
- Total Annilation of Downtime Justin Quimby
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Chris Holko
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Total Annilation of Downtime J C Lawrence
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Sanvean
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Steven J. Owens
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Brad McQuaid
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Brad McQuaid
- Total Annilation of Downtime Frank Crowell
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Total Annilation of Downtime Freeman, Jeff
- Total Annilation of Downtime Vincent Archer
- Total Annilation of Downtime shren
- Total Annilation of Downtime Eric Hu
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Matt Mihaly
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Total Annilation of Downtime Damion Schubert
- Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Retention without Addiction? (Koster, Raph) Dr. Cat
- MudDev FAQ - part I Marian Griffith
- MudDev FAQ - part II Marian Griffith
- But wait, there's more... Dave Rickey
- Where are raids from? Where are they going? Vladimir Cole
- MMOG Production Costs vs. Audience Growth (was Online Games Fighting Terrorism) Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Sean Kelly
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Damion Schubert
- Yikes Amanda Walker
- reputation system references Bruce Mitchener
- expansion packs Matt Mihaly
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Dave Rickey
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs Koster, Raph
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Wes Connell
- expansion packs Eric Hu
- expansion packs Damion Schubert
- expansion packs Derek Licciardi
- expansion packs Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- expansion packs Marc Fielding
- expansion packs kressilac@insightbb.com
- (no subject) Kent Peterson
- (no subject) Rayzam
- New Scientist Article... B.Beuger
- New Scientist Article... Rayzam
- New Scientist Article... Marc Fielding
- Questing (was AI not worth doing in our games?) Vincent Archer
- Description Content was: Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Complexities of Retention without Addiction? WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Complexities of Server Implementation? WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Justice Ocker
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot John Robert Arras
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Justice Ocker
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Marc Fielding
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot John Robert Arras
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Damion Schubert
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot bradley newton haug
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Wes Connell
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Damion Schubert
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Pay for Item MMOG : Entropia article on Slashdot Matt Mihaly
- Instancing, or Franchising? Dr. Cat
- Questions about my MUD design Christer Enfors
- Questions about my MUD design Peter Harkins
- Questions about my MUD design kressilac@insightbb.com
- Questions about my MUD design Wes Connell
- Questions about my MUD design eric leaf
- Questions about my MUD design Timothy Dang
- Questions about my MUD design Christer Enfors
- Questions about my MUD design marsian@desert-island.m.isar.de
- Towards virtual worlds (and the failure of the current industry) Marcdemesel@hotmail.com
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Sean Kelly
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Sean Kelly
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without A ddiction?) Koster, Raph
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Zach Collins {Siege}
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dubious Advocate
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) shren
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Matthew Dobervich
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Dave Rickey
- Persistent worlds in NWN (was: Retention without Addiction?) Valerio Santinelli
- Complexities of MMOG Servers WAS Retention Without Addiction bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. ra-whiteside@attbi.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Kwon Ekstrom
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Dave Rickey
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Damion Schubert
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Matt Mihaly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Josh Goldshlag
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. shren
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Marc LaFleur
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Prevayler. Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Robert Zubek
- Is database access a bottleneck? Ted L. Chen
- Is database access a bottleneck? Marc Fielding
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Is database access a bottleneck? Koster, Raph
- Is database access a bottleneck? Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
- Is database access a bottleneck? Derek Licciardi
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Dave Rickey
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? ceo@grexengine.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Is database access a bottleneck? Sean Kelly
- Is database access a bottleneck? Travis Nixon
- Is database access a bottleneck? Travis Nixon
- Is database access a bottleneck? Bruce Mitchener
- Is database access a bottleneck? Miroslav Silovic
- Is database access a bottleneck? Chris Holko
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Java Serialization ceo@grexengine.com
- Java Serialization Kwon Ekstrom
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- Habitat papers? J C Lawrence
- Habitat papers? Koster, Raph
- Habitat papers? Damion Schubert
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- Habitat papers? F. Randall Farmer
- Habitat papers? Richard A. Bartle
- ADMIN: Post formatting J C Lawrence
- Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck) Kebernet
- Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck) bradley newton haug
- Game industry (was Software Styles (was: Is database access a bottleneck)) Amanda Walker
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Dave Rickey
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Marc Fielding
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Wes Connell
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Marc Fielding
- Wired Article on Reality Breakdown Richard A. Bartle
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Dave Rickey
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Christopher Kohnert
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Wes Connell
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Dubious Advocate
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Serve rs) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Dubious Advocate
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Amanda Walker
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServer s) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Jon A. Lambert
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServer s) Koster, Raph
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Matt Mihaly
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOG Servers) Martin Bassie
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Corey Crawford
- Requirements for MM (was Complexities of MMOGServers) Dave Rickey
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime brian hook
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Brian Hook
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Hanz, Rob
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Christopher Allen
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Travis Nixon
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Dubious Advocate
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Koster, Raph
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Anni lation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Marc Fielding
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Valerio Santinelli
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Ling Lo
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Ted L. Chen
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Amanda Walker
- Heightfield vs. mesh was AC2 was Total Annilation of Downtime Zach Collins {Siege}
- Subject Skewage was: Total Annilation of Downtime Wes Connell
- Is database access a bottleneck? Amanda Walker
- Is database access a bottleneck? Jo Dillon
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Is database access a bottleneck? Jo Dillon
- Is database access a bottleneck? bradley newton haug
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Koster, Raph
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Valerio Santinelli
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Wes Connell
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Acius
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Wes Connell
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Lars Duening
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dave Rickey
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Mike Shaver
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Mike Shaver
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Kent Peterson
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Peter Harkins
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server John Erskine
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server John Erskine
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Damion Schubert
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server frosty@its.to
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Justin Stocks
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Justin Stocks
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ron Gabbard
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Eric Hu
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Ted L. Chen
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server rayzam
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server amanda@alfar.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Amanda Walker
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Eric Hu
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Madrona Tree
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Matt Mihaly
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marian Griffith
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Travis Nixon
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Sasha Hart
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Koster, Raph
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Dubious Advocate
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Vincent Archer
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Michael Tresca
- Star Wars Galaxies: 1 character per server Marc Fielding
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Michael Tresca wrote:
> John Robert Arras posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 10:29 AM
>> I think it's a question of how the game is set up. I have played
>> and run MUDs where powerlevelling is fun and worthwhile. The
>> problem is setting up the mechanics correctly. The system I've
>> seen has following:
> Wow. Everything you list as being "fun" I consider broken and
> considered these flaws to be issues we struggled long and hard to
> fix on RetroMUD.
As I said, it depends on how the mechanics are set up. I hated pkill
MUDs until I found one that worked for me (EmlenMUD). Then I
realized that the problem was in how people implemented things, not
the ideas. Also, RetroMUD allows multiple characters and limited or
regulated pk. These ideas don't work if people can switch characters
or have the option of avoiding pk.
>> - The game is a racewar/pkill/kingdoms at war game with a few
>> sides that fight each other. You are friends with your side and
>> can do whatever you want to the other side(s).
> This makes all the difference. We have a "War" function where
> players can, at their option, join in a fight against other teams.
> We don't make it required. It is not the full functionality of
> the game.
> Games that are constantly at war are more akin to a sport (like
> football) than a real MMORPG. An important distinction for this
> discussion, because Star Wars isn't (near as I can tell) going to
> be about PKing the other guy.
I agree that most of the time pkill or racewar games are poorly
implemented. However, if they're done in the fashion of a Sojourn or
EmlenMUD, they seem to work for me. Characters aren't constantly
fighting other people, but there's always a small chance that you
will run into enemies wherever you go. The PKing comes in spurts,
but you never really know when it will come. It's much more intense
than a game where you have to consent to pk or you have to have a
guild declare war so everybody knows the war is coming or you only
have a safe zone where you can pk but it doesn't really count. Those
kinds of implementations bore me, and they don't give me a feeling
of accomplishment since I know going in that I have a decent chance
of winning since everything is so... "balanced" and safe.
I don't expect SWG to be this pk-intensive, but I will be shocked if
it's discouraged. There is a FAQ:
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/features/swg_manual/cha5.jsp
It looks as if pkill is optional, but I assume most players will
choose one side or another simply to join in on the action. Some
will remain neutral and only participate in safe pkill, but I can't
imagine myself being in the Star Wars universe without wanting to
join the war. How much fun would the movies have been if Luke had
gone immediately and mindwiped the droids?
>> - Objects are not level-based or power-based. If you are a
>> newbie and you get the Ultimate Sword of Doom, you can pick it
>> up and use it.
> This is a huge problem because it encourages players to give hard
> earned equipment to newbies. That is, the barrier to getting an
> item is time and effort. Time and effort are in the hands of the
> player -- once the player gets the item, he can give it to
> whomever he wants. We learned very quickly that making things
> almost impossible to get but then making them incredibly powerful
> is NOT a balancing factor. Once it's in the game, it's in the
> game -- nothing should be so hard that it's ridiculously rare, and
> nothing should be so powerful that it has to be ridiculously hard.
> If you're creating such items, it's unbalancing.
Believe it or not, I agree with what you're saying here. I played on
many games where the equipment was overpowered until I saw something
that worked. There are two factors that can take care of this
problem. (Oh no more factors. :))
First, the equipment can't be overpowered. If all equipment in the
world is ranked on a scale of 1 to 10, then at later stages of the
game, equipment in the 7 to 8 or 9 range has to be easily
attainable. The "10" equipment is rarer, and more powerful, but it
doesn't matter because of the second thing.
Skills and abilities trump equipment. The equipment is somewhat
important, but a more advanced, skilled player with good equipment
will beat a less advanced, less skilled player with the best
equipment.
> When an item doesn't take into account power level, friends
> exchange equipment. A newbie, by mere virtue of knowing the right
> guy, gets an item that seriously unbalances the odds in his favor.
> An established group can horde items and create a series of
> supersoldiers. And this problem perpetuates itself, ensuring
> every new character who is part of that power group blows through
> levels at high speed.
This is true, but those supersoldiers can be killed at which point
they lose their equipment. If they truly are supersoldiers then it
will take a huge group to bring them down, and that will spread the
equipment out on the other side. Clans do try to hoard equipment
using cheater mules, but I can use discretion to enforce the spirit
of the rules. I once deleted an entire clan for using a legitimate
character as a mule.
>> - There is a remort system. Players who get to high levels can
>> choose to remort and go back to level 1 with slightly more
>> power. This system is skill-based so one of the things you get
>> is a slight increase in the number of skills you can
>> learn. There are also several remorts so the players will
>> constantly be going back down to low levels.
> This is just a big leveling treadmill, making it really obvious
> you go nowhere. I've played on these. People get bored after the
> second or third remort. It's only a "slight increase" -- so a 100
> level system is an illusion since you can remort and climb the
> levels again. Woo, infinite treadmilling with just more piles of
> stuff.
> Result: people do not play these games for long.
It's a treadmill, but it gives people something to do. However,
player skill does play a big part. There are definitely people who
are easier or harder to kill based on player skill. They are the
ones who can get killed, go find easy equipment for 10 minutes, then
go out and start fighting and winning again, even beating people who
have the "best" stuff.
The remorts do make it more interesting since it brings players back
to a lower level of power repeatedly so they can be killed more
easily. The games can last 4-5 years, but you're right, most don't
last more than a year or two.
>> - When you kill monsters for XP and loot, you get the same XP
>> regardless of whether or to you're level 1 or high level.
> AAAGH. If Third Edition D&D learned something (from MUDs, but I
> have no proof), it's that level of effort should be rewarded. Fit
> the reward to the effort. As much as possible, because
> goal-oriented players will look for maximum reward with minimal
> effort.
This isn't a problem. If you need 1000 exp to advance at level 1 and
1 billion at level 90, then it just doesn't matter. If lower levels
are getting powerlevelled, then they still require highlevels to
waste their time helping the lowlevels.
>> - The XP you get from a monster kill is the same per player for
>> groups of up to G players. The G I've seen that works well is
>> about 4-5.
> See above.
It encourages grouping. It encourages people to reach out to new
people to fill out a group since there isn't any penalty. It's worth
it for those reasons.
> What you're proposing works well in sports-type games, wherein
> there is a score and everything resets at the end of a season.
> Perpetual treadmilling is everything we try to avoid, precisely
> because in the long term, your immersive virtual environment is
> wasted on short-timers who are not interested in being immersed.
I have seen it work for fairly long periods in MUDs, and I've been
drawn in to games like this. I think it has some advantages that
make it less of a treadmill than you might think. The best players
will come out on top. If someone who is a really good player starts
later in the game, they will be able to make a mark quickly because
of the player skill. The remorting and the fact that equipment isn't
so important mean that not everyone will be good. There will be
players who barely hang on and slowly build up their characters even
though they aren't very good at the game, but they won't ever be the
ones the people turn to when they need help.
> Somehow, I don't think the above is going to be Star Wars. At
> least, I really hope not.
I don't think SWG will be like this, but I expect it will be more of
a treadmill than you think. It might be a "crafting" or "trading"
treadmill that lets people buy houses and own businesses, but it's
still a kind of treadmill.
-- John
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- Cultural impact on Muds (was: Star Wars Galaxies) Eric Hu
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- Brand Loyalty (was Requirements for MM(wasComplexities of MMOG Servers)) Marc Fielding
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- Brand Loyalty (was Requirements for MM(wasComplexities of MMOG Servers)) Damion Schubert
- Brand Loyalty (was Requirements for MM(wasComplexities of MMOG Servers)) Marc Fielding
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