April 2001

• Camelot Beta 3 Dave Rickey
• • Camelot Beta 3 Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • Camelot Beta 3 Vincent Archer
    • • Camelot Beta 3 Derek Licciardi
      • Camelot Beta 3 Darrin Hyrup
      • • Camelot Beta 3 Vincent Archer
        • • Camelot Beta 3 Dave Rickey
          • • Camelot Beta 3 Darrin Hyrup
    • Camelot Beta 3 Auli
• Room Searching Jared
• • Room Searching shren
  • Room Searching Travis Casey
  • Room Searching Eli Stevens
  • Room Searching Derek Licciardi
  • • Room Searching Adam Martin
  • Room Searching Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • Room Searching Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • Room Searching David Bennett
• Sims Online -- WAS: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs Zak Jarvis
• Mera '01 report Cassandra
• • Mera '01 report Jake Song
  • • Mera '01 report J C Lawrence
    • • Mera '01 report Jake Song
      • • Mera '01 report J C Lawrence
        • • Mera '01 report Cassandra
• Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Brian 'Psychochild' Green
• • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) McQuaid, Brad
  • • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Derek Licciardi
    • • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Travis Nixon
    • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Brian 'Psychochild' Green
    • • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Koster, Raph
      • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Jim S
    • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Freeman, Jeff
    • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Vincent Archer
    • • Learning about MUDs (was: MUD-Dev digest, V ol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Timothy Dang
• www.innbetweenworlds.com Klimon, Ian
• MERA '01 followup: Success critera Zak Jarvis
• MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #303 - 17 msgs Dr. Cat
• • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #303 - 17 msgs Baron, Jonathan
  • • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #303 - 17 msgs John Buehler
    • • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #303 - 17 msgs Baron, Jonathan
• ADMIN: HTML email, the reasons against J C Lawrence
• Need for a departure from reality? Matt Mihaly
• Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) geoffrey@yorku.ca
• • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Koster, Raph
  • • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Timothy Dang
    • • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Koster, Raph
      • • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Timothy Dang
        • • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Madman Across the Water
  • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Derek Licciardi
  • • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Vincent Archer
  • Broken Economies (was Learning about MUDs) Sellers, Michael
• Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Zak Jarvis
  • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space John Buehler
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
  • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Jerrith
    • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
      • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Jerrith
        • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
          • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space John Buehler
            • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
              • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space John Buehler
                • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
                  • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space John Buehler
                    • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
                      • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space John Buehler
                    • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Ben Sizer
        • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Mod el Space Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space shren
      • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space shren
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Philip
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Hal Bonnin
  • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Brian Hook
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Kwon Ekstrom
  • • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
  • Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space rayzam
• RE:The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Sellers, Michael
• Sv: Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Nicolai Hansen
• • Sv: Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
  • • Sv: Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Kwon Ekstrom
    • • Sv: Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
• ADMIN: Subject header maintenance (was: Broken currencies) J C Lawrence
• Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
• • Broken currencies Jim S
  • • Broken currencies Koster, Raph
    • Broken currencies Lars Duening
    • • Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
      • • Broken currencies Lars Duening
  • Broken currencies Brian 'Psychochild' Green
  • • Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
    • Broken currencies Timothy Dang
  • Broken currencies Phillip Lenhardt
  • • Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
    • • Broken currencies Phillip Lenhardt
      • • Broken currencies John Buehler
        • • Broken currencies Derek Licciardi
          • • Broken currencies Ben Sizer
            • • Broken currencies Adam Martin
              • • Broken currencies Ben Sizer
        • Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
      • Broken currencies Timothy Dang
  • Broken currencies Michael Dekker
  • • Broken currencies Miroslav Silovic
    • • Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
    • Broken currencies Timothy Dang
• [DGN] Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Ananda Dawnsinger
• • [DGN] Balancing Melee vs Ranged Combat in Games Which Model Space Travis Casey
• Broken currencies Matt Mihaly
• The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Baron, Jonathan
• • The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Sellers, Michael
  • • The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Baron, Jonathan
  • The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Dave Rickey
  • • The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) F. Randall Farmer
  • The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Lee Sheldon
• The Monad (was: Broken Economies) shren
• • The Monad (was: Broken Economies) Matt Mihaly
  • • The Monad (was: Broken Economies) John Buehler
    • • The Monad (was: Broken Economies) Matt Mihaly
• A User's Guide to TCP Windows J C Lawrence
• Balance J C Lawrence
• Economic & Derek Licciardi
• • Economic & Matt Mihaly
  • • Economic & Timothy Dang
• Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken economies) Matt Mihaly
• • Money supply in game economies (formerly Brokeneconomies) geoffrey@yorku.ca
  • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Brokeneconomies) Matt Mihaly
    • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Brokeneconomies) Timothy Dang
  • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken eco nomies) Koster, Raph
  • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken eco nomies) J C Lawrence
    • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken eco nomies) Matt Mihaly
      • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken economies) Adam Martin
  • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken economies) Timothy Dang
  • • Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken eco nomies) Freeman, Jeff
• [DGN] Balancing Melee/Ranged Combat Kwon Ekstrom
• Room Searching - how about doors? Gavin Doughtie
• Tracking Hulbert, Leland
• • Tracking Mordengaard
  • • Tracking Sanvean
  • Tracking Ryan P.
  • • Tracking Shawn L Johnston
• Online Games get an overview Koster, Raph
• [DGN] Money supply in game economies (formerly Brok en economies) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• [DSG] Concrete idea behind currency (was: The Monad and Broken Economies) Paul Schwanz
• Majestic (was The Sims Online) Matt Mihaly
• • Majestic (was The Sims Online) Baron, Jonathan
  • • Majestic (was The Sims Online) Matt Mihaly
    • • Majestic (was The Sims Online) Baron, Jonathan
      • Majestic (was The Sims Online) Sellers, Michael
      • • Majestic (was The Sims Online) Matt Mihaly
• Majestic (was The Sims Online) Matt Mihaly
• Identity and Economies [was Money supply in game economies (formerly Broken eco nomies) ] Joe Andrieu
• Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economies) Dave Rickey
• • Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economie s) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economies) Dave Rickey
    • • Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economie s) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economies) Dave Rickey
• The Sims Online (was MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #301 - 15 msgs) Baron, Jonathan
• Distributed Muds Jim Craig
• [DSG] Money supply in game economies (was: Broken Economies) Paul Schwanz
• TECH DGN: (was Broken currencies) Nathan F.Yospe
• [DESIGN] Economic & Marian Griffith
• • [DESIGN] Economic & Derek Licciardi
  • • [DESIGN] Economic & Marian Griffith
    • • [DESIGN] Economic & John Buehler
      • [DESIGN] Economic & Travis Nixon
      • • [DESIGN] Economic & Travis Casey
        • [DESIGN] Economic & Matt Mihaly
        • • [DESIGN] Economic & Travis Nixon
          • • [DESIGN] Economic & Matt Mihaly
• Author Unknown (was: Money supply in game economies) Emil Eifrém
• TECH: Distributed Muds Emil Eifrém
• • TECH: Distributed Muds Jim Craig
  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Frank Crowell
    • TECH: Distributed Muds Colin Coghill
    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
            • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brian Hook
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brian Hook
                  • TECH: Distributed Muds Adam Martin
• Shattered World's economy John W Pierce
• • Shattered World's economy Erik Jarvi
• [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) J C Lawrence
• • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Frank Crowell
  • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Lars Duening
  • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Vincent Archer
    • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Dave Rickey
      • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Matt Mihaly
        • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Vincent Archer
        • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) shren
        • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) John Buehler
        • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Ian Macintosh
      • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Matt Mihaly
    • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Matt Mihaly
        • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) J C Lawrence
          • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Travis Casey
      • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Matt Mihaly
        • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Vincent Archer
  • [BIZ] Advertising sprawl (yahoo) Matt Mihaly
• RG Interview Cassandra
• NEWS DGN Wired News article about EQ Zak Jarvis
• [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Vincent Archer
• • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) shren
  • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Freeman, Jeff
  • • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Derek Licciardi
    • • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Vincent Archer
      • • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Freeman, Jeff
        • [DESIGN] Economy goals (was: Broken currencies) Adam Martin
• Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Bob McFakename
• • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Lynx
  • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Matt Mihaly
    • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Bob McFakename
      • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Matt Mihaly
        • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Phillip Lenhardt
          • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Matt Mihaly
          • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Travis Casey
  • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Mordengaard
  • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Michael Tresca
  • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' shren
  • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Trump
  • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Dave Rickey
    • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich Effect' Michael Tresca
• Movie grosses Matt Mihaly
• • Movie grosses Brian 'Psychochild' Green
  • • Movie grosses Koster, Raph
    • Movie grosses Matt Mihaly
  • Movie grosses Myschyf
  • • Movie grosses Matt Mihaly
• StarPeace (was Money supply in game economies) Michael Dekker
• • StarPeace (was Money supply in game economies) Ling Lo
  • • StarPeace (was Money supply in game economies) shren
• TECH: Distributed Muds Bobby Martin
• • TECH: Distributed Muds Adam Martin
  • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brian Hook
        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Nick Walker
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
          • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brian Hook
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds shren
            • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brian Hook
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
              • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds shren
                      • TECH: Distributed Muds Eli Stevens
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds John Buehler
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Kevin Littlejohn
                          • • TECH: Distributed Muds John Buehler
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                  • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                        • TECH: Distributed Muds Matthew D. Fuller
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                          • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
              • TECH: Distributed Muds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • TECH: Distributed Muds Christopher Kohnert
            • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                      • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
                            • • TECH: Distributed Muds Matthew D. Fuller
                              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Owen
                                • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
                              • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                              • • TECH: Distributed Muds shren
                          • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
                        • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Leonard
                          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                          • TECH: Distributed Muds Kevin Littlejohn
                          • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                    • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                          • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                            • TECH: Distributed Muds Kwon Ekstrom
                            • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                              • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                                • TECH: Distributed Muds Kwon Ekstrom
                                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                                • TECH: Distributed Muds Neil Brown
              • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
              • • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
                    • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • TECH: Distributed Muds Derek Snider
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds shren
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds John Buehler
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Steven Fleischaker
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds Jon Lambert
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                    • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                  • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                  • TECH: Distributed Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Christopher Kohnert
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
                  • • TECH: Distributed Muds Chris Gray
                • TECH: Distributed Muds Kwon Ekstrom
      • TECH: Distributed Muds Bruce
      • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
        • • TECH: Distributed Muds Brad Roberts
          • • TECH: Distributed Muds Vincent Archer
• [DESIGN] Economic & Currency Solutions Phillip Lenhardt
• Curtailing the 'Super-Rich' Effect Bob McFakename
• • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich' Effect Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
  • • Curtailing the 'Super-Rich' Effect Jim S
• TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Gavin Doughtie
• • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Marc Bowden
  • • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Vincent Archer
    • • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Koster, Raph
      • • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control J C Lawrence
        • • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Marc Bowden
  • TECH: Flash Crowds and overflow control Justin Rogers
• BUSINESS: I need Online Gaming Revenue Projections. F. Randall Farmer
• [DESIGN] Economic & Currency Solutions Vincent Archer
• • [DESIGN] Economic & Currency Solutions Timothy Dang
  • [DESIGN] Economic & Currency Solutions Taylor Daynes
  • • [DESIGN] Economic & Currency Solutions Vincent Archer
• ADMIN: Moving... J C Lawrence
• UO and eBay figures Koster, Raph
• MUD for sale Chris Gray
• • MUD for sale Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • MUD for sale Dave Rickey
  • • MUD for sale Bruce
    • • MUD for sale Chris Gray
      • MUD for sale Kevin Littlejohn
• ADMIN: The move and current status J C Lawrence
• Virtual Suicide (Was: Money supply in game economies) Martin Burke
• TECH: Java ARMI Bobby Martin
• TECH: AmigaMud DB questions Bruce
• • TECH: AmigaMud DB questions Chris Gray
  • • TECH: AmigaMud DB questions Bruce
    • • TECH: AmigaMud DB questions Chris Gray
      • TECH: AmigaMud DB questions Jon Lambert
• Kuro5hin: What can games teach us about human-computer interaction? J C Lawrence
• Review of Galactic Emperor: Succession in LumTheMad's Forums Christopher Allen
• • Review of Galactic Emperor: Succession in LumTheMad's Forums Ling Lo
  • • Review of Galactic Emperor: Succession in LumTheMad's Forums J C Lawrence
• [BIZ] New EQ Expansion Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• Twisted Python J C Lawrence
• [TECH] Distributed MUD Kwon Ekstrom
• • [TECH] Distributed MUD Jeremy Noetzelman
  • • [TECH] Distributed MUD Kwon Ekstrom
  • [TECH] Distributed MUD J C Lawrence
• EQ: what makes a zone interesting? Frank Crowell
• • EQ: what makes a zone interesting? J C Lawrence
  • EQ: what makes a zone interesting? shren
  • • EQ: what makes a zone interesting? J C Lawrence
    • EQ: what makes a zone interesting? Elia Morling
• Imaginary Realities - April 2001 David Bennett
• [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent bruce@puremagic.com
• • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Jessica Mulligan
  • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Bruce
    • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Frank Crowell
    • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Kwon Ekstrom
    • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent John Robert Arras
    • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Jon Lambert
    • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent John Buehler
  • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Frank Crowell
  • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Travis Nixon
  • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Marian Griffith
  • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent John Buehler
  • • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Dave Rickey
  • [BIZ][TECH] worlds.com gets patent Derek Licciardi
• called shots Josh Rollyson
• • called shots Matt Mihaly
  • called shots Mordengaard
  • called shots Ling Lo
  • called shots shren
  • • called shots John Buehler
    • called shots Kwon Ekstrom
    • • called shots Travis Casey
  • called shots Travis Casey
• TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
• • TECH: Distributed Muds Brad Roberts
  • • TECH: Distributed Muds J C Lawrence
• TECH: Distributed Muds Dominic J. Eidson
• TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Bruce
• • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Derek Snider
  • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Bruce
    • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Derek Snider
      • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Alex
        • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) shren
          • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
          • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Derek Snider
  • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) John Buehler
    • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • • TECH: reliablity (was: Distributed Muds) John Buehler
          Ola Fosheim Grostad writes:
          
          > John Buehler wrote:
          
          >> The stability of a domain is absolutely an important part of
          >> creating quality software. This is true whether you're using
          >> components or not. Stability implies time, and time permits
          >> understanding. Lack of comprehension is the number one reason that
          >> we have bugs (my own assertion). Precise contracts are a claim
          >> that both sides of a contractual interaction can know very specific
          >> things about what's going to happen during that interaction.
          
          > One may question if a zillion contracts written in OCL, and which
          > most likely contain "bugs" themselves, are going to be very helpful
          > in a system that should evolve to meet changing requirements. Maybe
          > it is better to have a good abstract model which supports the
          > intuitive understanding the designers have of the domain. (OO) I
          > believe that light methods like extremeprogramming is one step in
          > the right direction for evolutionary projects. Now you even get
          > editors that will abstract your source code into visual
          > models. Better tools and extreme programming could become practical.
          
          Note that producing a zillion contracts will certainly result in bugs.
          Just as cranking out a zillion lines of code will. Software takes
          time so that the folks involved can understand what they're doing. XP
          is assuredly a step in the right direction because it addresses this
          fundamental problem: domains must be understood.
          
          But you see that I see XP as a step in the direction of solid
          component-centric development. XP may be the feasible next step in
          that direction. I'd just as soon save another 30 years of development
          and hop right into components.
          
          >> problem solving. If standards had never evolved, we'd still be
          >> writing assembly code and building applications no more complex
          >> than a clock.
          
          > This is another issue/level, which does not model the domain.
          
          All I heard was a whooshing sound as this went over my head...
          
          >> And this echoes the sentiments of the vast majority of the software
          >> development community. Taking the time to come up with precise
          >> contracts takes too long, so we crank out code at a furious rate.
          >> And that code is buggy. But not buggy enough to annoy consumers.
          
          > You don't need component-thinking to do separate testing of modules
          > (units). Or to use invariants etc.
          
          But if you do separate testing of units, you are doing a poor-man's
          equivalent of what components offer. What I'm trying to communicate
          is the point that components are a distillation of what we already do
          in a half-assed way. To me, components are a bit like the physics of
          software engineering. At least, components permit us to establish
          what one type of atom can be, and then a set of physics of software
          engineering can be inferred from there. It is only *a* set of
          physics. There may be other ways of tackling it, but I haven't seen
          anything better than (or indeed fundamentally different from) the way
          components were handled in that Microsoft research team.
          
          >> There is nothing inherent in components that produces a performance
          >> penalty. Further, the inflexibility that you're referring to is
          >> the same inflexibility that comes from having to use standardized
          >> parts in any construction process. Note that you're using standard
          >> network protocols, standard schedulers, standard file systems, etc.
          
          > Again this is irrelevant, and does not concern how you model the
          > domain. You are avoiding the problem which is indeed about
          > dependencies within the model.
          
          Domain modeling is the process of viable contract discovery. Whether
          you choose to embody those contracts in components or in some other
          stucturing is orthogonal. I argue that the component methodology
          permits careful tracking of the contracts as they change so as to
          avoid many/most design reconfiguration problems.
          
          >> and our compilers help us to sort that out. But changing the
          >> behavior of a piece of software without informing the software that
          >> uses it is not something that current tools support - yet such
          >> things can be lethal on a non-trivial project.
          
          > This is a tools discussion and not about wrapping up modules in a
          > facade with a minimum of interdependencies and designing by
          > specification. It is quite possible that you have better tools for
          > componentbased designs.
          
          I apologize. I must have completely misunderstood the crux of your
          post.
          
          JB
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