December 2001

• Stories, why? -- Because :) Marian Griffith
• [SECURITY] Bonefarming Adam Martin
• If JRRT did MUDs... Adam Martin
• • If JRRT did MUDs... Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • • If JRRT did MUDs... Marcus Johansson
• Story Implementation Lee Sheldon
• • Story Implementation rayzam
  • • Story Implementation Lee Sheldon
  • Story Implementation Jeff Freeman
  • • Story Implementation Lee Sheldon
    • • Story Implementation Jeff Freeman
    • Story Implementation Marian Griffith
    • • Story Implementation Jeff Freeman
      • Story Implementation Jeff Cole
  • Story Implementation Valerio Santinelli
• From the linux-kernel list Jeff Cole
• Survey: Internet Cuts Into TV Time Michael Tresca
• Interesting DAoC Poll Lee Sheldon
• • Interesting DAoC Poll Vincent Archer
  • • Interesting DAoC Poll Robert Fleck
    • Interesting DAoC Poll Azeraab
    • • Interesting DAoC Poll Matt Mihaly
      • Interesting DAoC Poll Dave Shepherd
      • • Interesting DAoC Poll Azeraab
        • • Interesting DAoC Poll Dave Shepherd
          • • Interesting DAoC Poll Matt Mihaly
• Project announcement: Cool++ ryan daum
• DAoC: Empowering Players to Alter the World (was: New laws) Lee Sheldon
• DGN: Chemistry based magic systems Bryan "Cyngon" Helmkamp
• • DGN: Chemistry based magic systems Nathan F. Yospe
  • • DGN: Chemistry based magic systems rayzam
    • • DGN: Chemistry based magic systems Bryan "Cyngon" Helmkamp
    • DGN: Chemistry based magic systems Bryan "Cyngon" Helmkamp
    • • DGN: Chemistry based magic systems Sellers, Mike
• RuneSword Brian Hook
• Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Elia Morling
  • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Timothy Dang
  • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Koster, Raph
  • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) John Buehler
    • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Koster, Raph
      • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) John Buehler
        • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Travis Nixon
        • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Marian Griffith
        • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Steve {Bloo} Daniels
    • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Koster, Raph
      • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Steve {Bloo} Daniels
    • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Sellers, Mike
    • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Matt Mihaly
    • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Travis Nixon
      • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Matt Mihaly
      • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Koster, Raph
      • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Travis Nixon
        • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
        • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Bobby Martin
          • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Paul Schwanz
            • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Peter Harkins
              • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Paul Schwanz
            • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
            • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Bobby Martin
              • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Timothy Dang
    • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Travis Nixon
    • • Economic Growth (Was: [STORY] Story and population size) Koster, Raph
• RE : Story Implementation Veynom
• • RE : Story Implementation Matt Mihaly
  • • RE : Story Implementation Matt Mihaly
• Economy (was [STORY] Story and population size) Jeff Cole
• • Economy (was [STORY] Story and population size) Dave Rickey
  • • Economy (was [STORY] Story and population size) Jeff Cole
    • • Economy (was [STORY] Story and populationsize) Dave Rickey
• RE : Story Implementation Veynom
• • RE : Story Implementation Matt Mihaly
• economy and population size Adam Martin
• • economy and population size J C Lawrence
• Art vs. Fun Michael Tresca
  The below post provides an interesting perspective on the art of
  game design. I've personally experienced the failure of my "art" as
  something players find fun -- it's a hard reality to swallow.
  
  Thinking Virtually
  #35: Just Give Me a Game, Please
  An Alternative View to The Fun Factor
  by Jessica Mulligan
  December 10, 2001
  
  From http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/columns/virtually10dec01.html
  
  =====================
  I'm about toss a lit match onto the gas-soaked clothing of online
  game design. Stick around; it'll take me a while to get to the point
  and I may get singed, but the explosion will no doubt be very pretty
  to see.
  
  If you subscribe to one of today's for-pay persistent world games,
  you probably assumed you were paying money to play a game and have
  some fun. Foolish mortal; what were you thinking, anyway? Never
  mind, you can be forgiven your error; after all, that's how the game
  was marketed, so what were you supposed to think, eh?
  
  No, your importance to the designers is not as a game player and
  paying customer; you have a far more important role. You are
  experimental performance art, my friend. The experiment may be in
  methods of delivering a particular story vision, the outcome of
  which is pre-determined in the mind of the designer, to see how you
  wiggle on the hook, or in how to force players into taking part in
  so-called "player-controlled justice systems" to see how you and
  other players form communities (the outcome of which is also
  predetermined in the mind of the designer). But guinea pig actors
  you are, and paying for the privilege, too.
  
  And make no mistake about it; consciously or not, most designers
  consider that a player actually having a good time in the game to be
  a happy circumstance, but not the primary goal. Most designers will
  give public lip service to creating a playable game that the players
  enjoy, but what they are really trying to do is create
  Art-with-a-capital-A. God help us all.
  
  Don't believe me? Hit any search engine and run a search on "player
  justice systems" or "player-driven justice systems." You'll see some
  very familiar names from the persistent world game industry and read
  a lot about "using storyline to encode ethical systems" and
  "teaching moral lessons." If you follow enough of the subsidiary
  links and dig down deep enough (take a shovel, 'cause you'll need
  it), you'll read about such arcane matters as "the responsibility of
  the artist," "communicating an expression to the audience" and
  "artistic differences." When you're done reading, you'll realize
  that there is a disconnect between you and many of the designers. In
  your mind, you're a game player; in theirs, you're part of a
  participatory audience in creating Art.
  
  Before we get too far down this road, I admit up front: all forms of
  media are in some way art. You can't be in a creative endeavor and
  not help but be part of creating some form of art, be it good or
  bad. No one would argue that when EverQuest first shipped in 1999
  that the graphics weren't art of a high caliber. And I've no
  objection to art, as long as that's what I wanted in the first
  place. However, when I walk into a museum to see the works of the
  great masters, I don't expect to be handed a brush and canvas and
  told to get busy. Similarly, when I boot up a for-pay online game, I
  don't expect that my experience is going to consist of admiring the
  Art of the designers; I'm paying to have fun and that's what I want,
  dammit. What I do object to is the airey-fairy notion that online
  games must somehow be Art-with-a-capital-A and must be judged as
  such. If Art happens to creep in while I'm playing, that's all very
  well and good, as long as it isn't at the expense of my reason for
  being there. What I want is entertainment first; what I seem to be
  getting are misguided attempts to provide me with Art.
  
  This argument of Art versus Entertainment is one that has been going
  on for hundreds of years among creative sorts, and I've seen it
  flare up in computer gaming in a major way at least three times in
  the last fifteen years. It's something of an 'elite vision versus
  doing-it-for-the-money' thing. In general, the argument revolves
  around the antagonistic and opposing views that one should either
  constantly strive to create Art or, conversely, strive to create
  Entertainment. Art is to be remembered and cherished, while
  Entertainment is a momentary thing done for money, best done in the
  dark and be sure to wash your hands afterwards. Artists are real big
  on government and private patronage, whereas Entertainers hope to
  strike it big by having lots of people pay for their work in some
  form or another. One side seems to feel that making money off
  charging the mass is somehow less righteous than having some moneyed
  elite hand out honorariums to advance Art; it has something to do
  with "pandering to the lowest common denominator."
  
  This is an argument that will never be "won," of course. Both sides
  have valid issues to express and axes to grind, so we'll be hearing
  about it until the heat death of the Universe. And having been a
  designer, I can tell you there is a subtle thrill in the thought
  that you are creating something that people might remember for a
  long time. However, the most salient feature of the Art
  vs. Entertainment argument that I've been able to discern seems to
  be that those who actively set out to Create Art As Art are often
  less well-remembered than those who set out to Create Art To Make A
  Buck.
  
  As one illustration of this phenomenon, how many of the following
  names do you recognize: Thomas Kyd, Ben Jonson, Christopher Marlowe,
  Inigo Jones and Thomas Middleton. The average person probably won't
  recognize even one of the names, though college theater students and
  those with an academic or literary bent will recognize one or two of
  them easily. They were all Elizabethan poets and playwrights who
  were widely considered in their own time to have written works that
  were Art. Each was learned, well-versed in the use of the Greek and
  Latin that were the rage in academia of the time, and the customs,
  mores and themes that appealed to the educated noble class that kept
  most of them alive with honorariums. Most of them couldn't draw a
  crowd with a public performance of their work, so they took to
  writing for and dedicating their works to moneyed nobles, who were
  then expected to send a gift to the author. Each was also considered
  a far better Artist than one other of their peer group.
  
  That contemporary of these great artists was considered by his peers
  to be a mere Entertainer, a craftsman and panderer to the masses,
  the "penny knaves," as Jonson derisively called them in reference to
  the cost of admission to the cheap seats. His work was full of
  exciting swordfights, hot-blooded romance and all the other things
  that appealed to the average Joe. Indeed, he was the Aaron Spelling
  of his day, a man who made good money appealing to those penny
  knaves and who was liked personally by his peers, but was not
  respected by them for his works. When Henry Peacham published The
  Complete Gentleman in 1622, this poet and playwright's name was not
  on the list of great Elizabethan poets, although it is certain that
  Peacham knew the man personally at least as early as 1595. In case
  you haven't already figured it out, the person we're talking about
  here was William Shakespeare.
  
  What I hope you take away from this example (aside from the weird
  and slightly disturbing thought that Melrose Place may be considered
  the pinnacle of 20th Century Art 400 years from now) is that
  Shakespeare's first consideration wasn't Art; he was trying to make
  sure he and his buddies in the theater troupe called The Lord
  Chamberlain's Men had food on the table and a roof over their
  heads. His first consideration was entertainment; if he didn't
  entertain the audience, he was going to starve, pure and simple. It
  was later generations that branded his work Art-with-a-capital-A;
  the mass consumers of his own time just considered it a ripping good
  time for a penny.
  
  Have some people set out to create Art, made money and remain known
  today? Sure, happens all the time. So what is the point to all this
  rambling about dead playwrights and Art versus Entertainment, you
  ask? Simply this: it is my contention that too much of what is
  called 'design' in today's persistent world games is actually Art in
  sheep's clothing. In this case, it really comes down to the need and
  desire of a designer to create Art, and the best way to do that when
  you're dealing with thousands of individual random action generators
  is to try to shove it down their throats.
  
  Thus, introduced are key design elements that ignore the realities
  of the Internet and online gaming, trying to shoe-horn the players
  into being unwitting performers in an Art piece in which the results
  are a pre-ordained vision in the head of the designer. Soi-disant
  "player-driven justice" systems in a non-consensual
  player-versus-player environment are a perfect example. There is no
  doubt a place for niche games that feature non-consensual PvP and
  this isn't the place to get into the arguments for and against in
  detail. The fact is, the market has shown clearly that even most
  hard core gamers don't want non-consensual PvP in a commercial
  environment. That hasn't stopped designers' arguments for and
  attempts to implement such systems. My favorite rationale for it has
  to be "Non-consensual PvP promotes community." I'm sure that it
  does, occasionally and among a small and highly motivated sector of
  the community. As Ultima Online clearly showed, however,
  non-consensual PvP far more often promotes "I'm tired of being
  constantly ganked by a gang of social misfits" and "I'm taking this
  piece of crap back to the store."
  
  These attempts to create Art also ignore one other important facet
  of for-pay persistent worlds, maybe the most important facet; the
  need of the player to create his/her own art. Unlike television,
  movies or museums, gaming is a participatory medium; any story arc,
  photo-realistic graphic or game system is just a backdrop and tool
  for the player to create his own story and legend. That's why we're
  there. When those get in the way, we're gone, simple as that.
  
  No doubt some quarters will roundly castigate me for suggesting that
  the primary purpose of an online game should be entertainment; the
  prevailing bent is far more academic than
  entertainment-oriented. While there are elements of that attitude
  that are good — and maybe, arguably, necessary for the advancement
  of online gaming — I'm rather tired of it being the end-all and
  be-all. Given that, is it any wonder that today's persistent world
  role-playing games at launch are unmitigated design disasters, which
  are then 'fine-tuned' to more accurately suit the desires of the
  designers and then, finally and generally after the original
  designers have moved on to the next project, are fine-tuned to more
  accurately suit reality and the desires of the paying customers?
  
  ==================
  Mike "Talien" Tresca
  RetroMUD Administrator
  http://www.retromud.org/talien
• • Art vs. Fun Koster, Raph
  • • Art vs. Fun Matt Mihaly
  • Art vs. Fun Matt Mihaly
  • Art vs. Fun Robert Zubek
• First use of "avatar"? Koster, Raph
• • First use of "avatar"? Lars Duening
  • • First use of "avatar"? Matt Mihaly
  • First use of "avatar"? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • • First use of "avatar"? Koster, Raph
  • First use of "avatar"? Steve {Bloo} Daniels
  • First use of "avatar"? Travis Casey
  • • First use of "avatar"? Koster, Raph
    • First use of "avatar"? Christopher Kohnert
    • • First use of "avatar"? Travis Casey
      • • First use of "avatar"? Koster, Raph
        • • First use of "avatar"? Travis Nixon
          • • First use of "avatar"? Madman Across the Water
    • First use of "avatar"? Takis Kalogiratos
  • First use of "avatar"? Tamzen Cannoy
  • First use of "avatar"? Dr. Cat
  • • First use of "avatar"? F. Randall Farmer
  • First use of "avatar"? Mats Lidstrom
  • • First use of "avatar"? Koster, Raph
    • • First use of "avatar"? Nathan F. Yospe
      • First use of "avatar"? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • First use of "avatar"? Richard A. Bartle
• Managing MUD economy Vladimir Prelovac
• • Managing MUD economy opteek
  • Managing MUD economy Koster, Raph
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  • • Managing MUD economy Freeman, Jeff
    • • Managing MUD economy John Buehler
      • • Managing MUD economy Marian Griffith
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      • • Managing MUD economy Adam Martin
    • Managing MUD economy Sasha Hart
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    • • Managing MUD economy Travis Casey
      • • Managing MUD economy Vladimir Prelovac
        • • Managing MUD economy Travis Casey
          • • Managing MUD economy William Murdick
    • Managing MUD economy Timothy Dang
• MUD implementation issues. Marcus Johansson
• • MUD implementation issues. J C Lawrence
  • • MUD implementation issues. Nicholas E. Walker
  • MUD implementation issues. Phillip Lenhardt
  • MUD implementation issues. Bruce Mitchener
  • • MUD implementation issues. Jonathan Berling
    • • MUD implementation issues. Bruce Mitchener
    • MUD implementation issues. Marcus Johansson
    • • MUD implementation issues. Bruce Mitchener
• Economy Vincent Archer
• • Economy Travis Casey
  • • Economy Koster, Raph
    • • Economy Travis Casey
      • • Economy Koster, Raph
    • Economy Amanda Walker
    • • Economy Matt Mihaly
• Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll Azeraab
• • Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll Dave Shepherd
  • • Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll Azeraab
    • • Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll John Buehler
      • • Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
      • Ten Rules of PvP was Interesting DAoC Poll Vincent Archer
• MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
• • MMORPGs & MUDs Derek Licciardi
  • • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
    • • MMORPGs & MUDs Brian Hook
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    • • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
      • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
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    • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
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      • • MMORPGs & MUDs Lee Sheldon
        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Mike Caruso
            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Adam Martin
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
  • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
    • • MMORPGs & MUDs Jeff Freeman
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          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Jeff Freeman
              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                • • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
                  • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                  • MMORPGs & MUDs Jeff Freeman
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                    • • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
                      • • MMORPGs & MUDs Madrona Tree
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs John Buehler
                        • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
                          • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
                        • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
                          • MMORPGs & MUDs David H. Loeser Jr.
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
                      • MMORPGs & MUDs Freeman, Jeff
                      • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Vincent Archer
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Vincent Archer
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
                              • • MMORPGs & MUDs rayzam
                                • • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
                      • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                      • • MMORPGs & MUDs William B. Taylor
                        • MMORPGs & MUDs Skaei@aol.com
                        • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Madrona Tree
                            • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
                            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Christopher Allen
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
                              • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
                        • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
                        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Vincent Archer
                          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Dave Rickey
              • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Richard Aihoshi aka Jonric
                • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
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              • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
          • MMORPGs & MUDs Marc Bowden
          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Marc Bowden
              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
            • MMORPGs & MUDs David Bennett
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          • MMORPGs & MUDs Freeman, Jeff
          • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
            • • MMORPGs & MUDs Jeff Freeman
              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
              • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
              • • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
                • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
      • MMORPGs & MUDs Matt Mihaly
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Wes Connell
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Koster, Raph
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
  • • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
    • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Joel Palmtag
  • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
  • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michael Tresca
    • • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
      • • MMORPGs & MUDs Michelle Elbert
        • • MMORPGs & MUDs Sami Kosonen
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Azeraab
  • MMORPGs & MUDs Sellers, Mike
  • MMORPGs & MUDs J C Lawrence
• Re[4]: Economy Travis Casey
• Eiffel Brian Hook
• • Eiffel Bruce Mitchener
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• ADMIN: Origin of "Avatar" thread J C Lawrence
• Call for Papers - NetGames2002 Tristan Henderson
• Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
• • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Brian Hook
  • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
    • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Koster, Raph
      • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
        • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Koster, Raph
          • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions rayzam
            • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
            • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Travis Casey
      • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
        • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Caliban Tiresias Darklock
          • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
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          • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
      • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Andrew Hefford
      • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
        • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Koster, Raph
          • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Jon Lambert
          • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
  • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Koster, Raph
  • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Dave Rickey
  • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
    • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Dave Rickey
    • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
    • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Dave Rickey
      • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions John Buehler
        • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions rayzam
          • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Caliban Tiresias Darklock
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            • • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Jon Lambert
      • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Peter Harkins
  • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Travis Casey
  • Continuous versus Discrete Functions Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• LPC-Natural Language Parser z032383@students.niu.edu
• [TECH] Event Queues in MUDs Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com
• • [TECH] Event Queues in MUDs Jon Lambert
  • [TECH] Event Queues in MUDs Christian Loth
• [TECH] algorithm request Malcolm Tester II
• • [TECH] algorithm request William Murdick
  • [TECH] algorithm request Lars Duening
  • [TECH] algorithm request David Bennett
  • [TECH] algorithm request Travis Casey
  • • [TECH] algorithm request Malcolm Tester II
  • [TECH] algorithm request Adam Martin
  • [TECH] algorithm request Eli Stevens
  • [TECH] algorithm request Bobby Martin
  • [TECH] algorithm request Bryan "Cyngon" Helmkamp
• non-'realistic' spatial models Nicholas E. Walker
• • non-'realistic' spatial models rayzam
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  • non-'realistic' spatial models Nathan F. Yospe
• The Problem With "Massive" Michael Tresca
• The Ideal Player Michael Tresca
• • The Ideal Player Lars Duening
  • The Ideal Player Dave Rickey
  • • The Ideal Player Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• [Theory?] Parsing of knowledge to allow for more interactive NPCs holding99@mindspring.com
• • [Theory?] Parsing of knowledge to allow for more interactive NPCs Robert Zubek
  • • [Theory?] Parsing of knowledge to allow for more interactive NPCs holding99@mindspring.com
    • • [Theory?] Parsing of knowledge to allow for more interactive NPCs Robert Zubek
• CHI 2002: Funology: Designing Enjoyment Bruce Mitchener
• • CHI 2002: Funology: Designing Enjoyment Bruce Mitchener
  • CHI 2002: Funology: Designing Enjoyment Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• [OFF TOPIC] Happy Holidays Derek Licciardi
• Are crafts fun? Adam Dray
• • Are crafts fun? Michelle
  • • Are crafts fun? Bobby Martin
  • Are crafts fun? Bobby Martin
• Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Jon A. Lambert
• • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) amanda@alfar.com
  • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Marian Griffith
  • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Marian Griffith
      • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
        • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Marian Griffith
          • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
          • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
          • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Gender differences -> spatial navigation rayzam
• • Gender differences -> spatial navigation amanda@alfar.com
  • • Gender differences -> spatial navigation Nathan F. Yospe
    • • Gender differences -> spatial navigation shren
• Sex and MUDs... the_sage2000@juno.com
• • Sex and MUDs... Jon Lambert
  • Sex and MUDs... David Bennett
  • Sex and MUDs... Travis Casey
  • • Sex and MUDs... Malcolm Tester II
  • Sex and MUDs... Matt Mihaly
  • Sex and MUDs... Adam Dray
• Some vworlds (maddog) related changes Frank Crowell
• • Some vworlds (maddog) related changes Frank Crowell
• (no subject) claw@kanga.nu
• Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) amanda@alfar.com
  • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Marian Griffith
  • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #16 3 - 25 msgs) Sellers, Mike
  • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) amanda@alfar.com
    • Boys and Girls - was (MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs) mystran@ltv.cx
• Combat system in persistent world Veynom
• • Combat system in persistent world J C Lawrence
• Taligent docs Bruce Mitchener
• • Taligent docs Chris Corry
• TECH: Servers in Java Brian Hook
• • TECH: Servers in Java Bruce Mitchener
  • • TECH: Servers in Java Brian Hook
  • TECH: Servers in Java Bobby Martin
  • TECH: Servers in Java Emil Eifrem
  • TECH: Servers in Java Aaron Mulder
  • TECH: Servers in Java justice@softhome.net
  • TECH: Servers in Java Brian Hook
  • TECH: Servers in Java Daniel.Harman@barclayscapital.com