July 2000
- Scalable Network I/O in Linux J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players adam@treyarch.com
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Scatter
- curses and grief players Marc Bowden
- curses and grief players David Bennett
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players Marc Bowden
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players stoddart@slip.net
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Matthew Mihaly
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players jolson@micron.net
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Josh Olson
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Jon A. Lambert
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players Zak Jarvis
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Jon A. Lambert
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Malcolm Valentine
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Patrick Dughi
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- curses and grief players Travis Nixon
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- curses and grief players Geoffrey A. MacDougall
- curses and grief players Marc Bowden
- curses and grief players Matthew Mihaly
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Dave Rickey
- curses and grief players Jon A. Lambert
- curses and grief players John Buehler
- curses and grief players Nicholas Daley
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Val Trullinger
- curses and grief players David Bennett
- curses and grief players Timothy Dang
- curses and grief players KevinL
- curses and grief players Raph Koster
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players KevinL
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Nicholas Daley
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- curses and grief players KevinL
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Jon A. Lambert
- curses and grief players Marian Griffith
- curses and grief players J C Lawrence
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Jon A. Lambert
- curses and grief players Greg Miller
- curses and grief players Andy
- curses and grief players Timothy Dang
- Fantasy clichés (was: Acting casual about casual gamers) Brian Green
- Fantasy clichés (was: Acting casual about casualgamers) Raph Koster
- Fantasy cliché s (was: Acting casual about casualgamers) Travis Nixon
- Fantasy cliché s (was: Acting casual about casualgamers) Dave Rickey
- Fantasy clichés (was: Acting cas ual aboutcasualgamers) S. Patrick Gallaty
- Combat systems, the good the bad and the ugly Malcolm Valentine
- Combat systems, the good the bad and the ugly Travis Casey
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Tim Vernum
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Raph Koster
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Travis Casey
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing adam@treyarch.com
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Greg Miller
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Travis Casey
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Nameless Solforge
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Chris Turner
- "Mud-school", character-gen and role-playing Christopher Allen
- Fantasy clichés Michael Tresca
- Fantasy clichés Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- Fantasy clichés Zak Jarvis
- Online gaming conference Matthew Mihaly
- Online gaming conference J C Lawrence
- Online gaming conference Milne, Alistair
- A new combat system Dragat123@aol.com
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- A new combat system Ryan P.
- A new combat system Hess, Ian W {Ian}
- A new combat system Ryan P.
- A new combat system Russo, Joe
- A new combat system Ryan P.
- A new combat system Travis Casey
- A new combat system adam@treyarch.com
- A new combat system Travis Casey
- A new combat system J C Lawrence
- A new combat system Travis Casey
- A new combat system J C Lawrence
- A new combat system John Bertoglio
- A new combat system Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- A new combat system J C Lawrence
- A new combat system adam@treyarch.com
- A new combat system Ben
- Fantasy clich=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=s Ryan Schotte
- Fantasy clich s J C Lawrence
- Fantasy clich s Raph Koster
- Number Economy Michael Tresca
- Number Economy Philip Loguinov, Draymoor
- Number Economy Matthew Mihaly
- Fantasy clich=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=s Ryan Schotte
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics S. Patrick Gallaty
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics John Bertoglio
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics Chris Jacobson
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics S. Patrick Gallaty
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics Matthew Mihaly
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics Raph Koster
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics Matthew Mihaly
- Corruption of the game, profit and ethics Greg Miller
- Why Socializers are our Comrades (long) Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- Why Socializers are our Comrades (long) Sam Axon
- Why Socializers are our Comrades (long) Raph Koster
- Harry Potter J C Lawrence
- Harry Potter John Bertoglio
- Harry Potter Todd McKimmey
- Harry Potter Todd McKimmey
- Harry Potter Raph Koster
- Harry Potter J C Lawrence
- Harry Potter Michael Tresca
- [Meta] Harry Potter David Bennett
- Fantasy clich=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=s (was: Acting casual about casualgamers) Ananda Dawnsinger
- MUDs, eBay Farmers in The Economist Daniel James
- Introduction System Nathan Clemons
- Introduction System Nathan Clemons
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System S. Patrick Gallaty
- Introduction System seanl@literati.org
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System adam@treyarch.com
- Introduction System Bruce
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System Eli Stevens
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System Bruce
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System Tim Vernum
- Introduction System Dan Merillat
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System razor
- Introduction System Travis Nixon
- Introduction System Travis Nixon
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System Dan Shiovitz
- Introduction System Ryan P.
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System adam@treyarch.com
- Introduction System Colin Coghill
- Introduction System birgit.schulte@philips.com
- Introduction System J C Lawrence
- Introduction System birgit.schulte@philips.com
- Introduction System Michael Hohensee
- Introduction System Chris Turner
- Introduction System Eli Stevens
- Introduction System Mordengaard
- Introduction System Jon A. Lambert
- Introduction System Jon Callas
- curses and grief players - dark ages game solutions S. Patrick Gallaty
- Fantasy clichés (was: Acting casual aboutcasualgamers) adam@treyarch.com
- Getting stuck (was Fantasy clichés) Greg Miller
- Getting stuck (was Fantasy clichés) Travis Casey
- Getting stuck (was Fantasy clichés) Greg Miller
- Getting stuck (was Fantasy clichés) Travis Casey
- ADMIN: SQL troubles appear to be over. J C Lawrence
- MUD-Dev request rejected Patrick Dughi
- Spherical World Design Philip Loguinov, Draymoor
- Spherical World Design Michelle Thompson
- Spherical World Design Jon A. Lambert
- Spherical World Design J C Lawrence
- Spherical World Design Jon A. Lambert
- Spherical World Design Christopher Allen
- Spherical World Design Patrick Dughi
- Modelling combat Vladimir Prelovac
- Modelling combat Travis Casey
- Modelling combat adam@treyarch.com
- Modelling combat Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
- Modelling combat J C Lawrence
- Modelling combat Travis Casey
- Modelling combat adam@treyarch.com
- Modelling combat adam@treyarch.com
- Modelling combat John Bertoglio
- Modelling combat Vladimir Prelovac
- Modelling combat Travis Casey
- Modelling combat Greg Miller
- Modelling combat Travis Casey
- Modelling combat Greg Miller
- Modelling combat Chris Gray
- Modelling combat Jon A. Lambert
- Modelling combat Travis Casey
- Modelling combat jolson@micron.net
- ScryMUD 2.1.1 released. Ben Greear
- Identity and Ethics briefly touched on in Washington Post Raph Koster
- Interesting expansion on Bartle's Four Raph Koster
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Dr. Cat
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Mud Imp
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs J C Lawrence
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Hess, Ian W {Ian}
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Marian Griffith
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Raph Koster
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Jeff Freeman
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Matthew Mihaly
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Raph Koster
- Code Repository Kyndig
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #164 - 12 msgs Dr. Cat
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #164 - 12 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #164 - 12 msgs Dr. Cat
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #164 - 12 msgs Raph Koster
- Mud-Dev FAQ 1 Marian Griffith
- Mud-dev FAQ 1 Marian Griffith
- Mud-Dev FAQ 2 Marian Griffith
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs Dr. Cat
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs Greg Miller
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs John Buehler
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs Matthew Mihaly
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- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs Tamzen Cannoy
- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #165 - 14 msgs Greg Miller
- [Meta] MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs J C Lawrence
- [Meta] MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Raph Koster
- [Meta] MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Matthew Mihaly
- [Meta] MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Raph Koster
- fantasy cliches Travis Casey
- fantasy cliches J C Lawrence
- grief players S. Patrick Gallaty
- Combat Systems Ben
- Combat Systems Patrick Dughi
- Combat Systems J C Lawrence
- Combat Systems Ben
- Combat Systems adam@treyarch.com
- Combat Systems Ben
- Combat Systems adam@treyarch.com
- Combat Systems Phillip Lenhardt
- Combat Systems adam@treyarch.com
- Combat Systems KevinL
- Combat Systems Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Combat Systems Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- threading server models (was: Combat Systems) Bruce
- eXistenZ WAS -- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Zak Jarvis
- eXistenZ WAS -- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- eXistenZ WAS -- MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #163 - 25 msgs Raph Koster
- Battlenet Hack Geoffrey A. MacDougall
- eXistenZ Zak Jarvis
- eXistenZ Dave Rickey
- Sustainable Ecosystem Geoffrey A. MacDougall
- Sustainable Ecosystem J C Lawrence
- Sustainable Ecosystem S. Patrick Gallaty
- Sustainable Ecosystem Timothy Dang
- Sustainable Ecosystem Greg Miller
- Sustainable Ecosystem Michael Tresca
- Sustainable Ecosystem Mordengaard
- Sustainable Ecosystem jolson@micron.net
- Sustainable Ecosystem adam@treyarch.com
- Sustainable Ecosystem Raph Koster
- Sustainable Ecosystem Dave Rickey
- Sustainable Ecosystem Raph Koster
- Sustainable Ecosystem Mordengaard
- Sustainable Ecosystem Matthew D. Fuller
- Sustainable Ecosystem quzah@kanga.nu
- Sustainable Ecosystem Josh Olson
- Sustainable Ecosystem Timothy Dang
- Sustainable Ecosystem Andy
- Sustainable Ecosystem Patrick Dughi
- Sustainable Ecosystem Timothy Dang
- Sustainable Ecosystem ERI
- Sustainable Ecosystem Jon A. Lambert
- Sustainable Ecosystem Patrick Dughi
- Sustainable Ecosystem jolson@micron.net
- Sustainable Ecosystem Nathan Clemons
- Sustainable Ecosystem holding99@mindspring.com
- Sustainable Ecosystem Raph Koster
- My favorite game systems, what are yours? S. Patrick Gallaty
- My favorite game systems, what are yours? Marc Bowden
- Thread models and Linux J C Lawrence
- eXistenZ Zak Jarvis
- Player skill Tess Lowe
- Player vs. Character Skills Ananda Dawnsinger
- Command Qeues - Was "Combat Systems" Ben
- Command Qeues - Was "Combat Systems" Eli Stevens
- Roleplaying in Muds Ben
- Roleplaying in Muds Colin Coghill
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds Malcolm Valentine
- Roleplaying in Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Roleplaying in Muds Matthew Mihaly
- Roleplaying in Muds Ben
- Roleplaying in Muds Solmyr of the Azure Star
- Roleplaying in Muds J C Lawrence
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds J C Lawrence
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds Dave Rickey
- Roleplaying in Muds Raph Koster
- Roleplaying in Muds Peter
- Roleplaying in Muds Phillip Lenhardt
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds J C Lawrence
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds Solmyr of the Azure Star
- Roleplaying in Muds Patrick Dughi
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds J C Lawrence
- Roleplaying in Muds Ben
- Roleplaying in Muds Solmyr of the Azure Star
- Roleplaying in Muds Erik Jarvi
- Roleplaying in Muds Josh Anderson
- Roleplaying in Muds rayzam
- Roleplaying in Muds Solmyr of the Azure Star
- Roleplaying in Muds Erik Jarvi
- Roleplaying in Muds Josh Anderson
- Roleplaying in Muds Malcolm Valentine
- Roleplaying in Muds Miroslav Silovic
- Roleplaying in Muds Josh Anderson
- Roleplaying in Muds Patrick Dughi
- Roleplaying in Muds Miroslav Silovic
- Roleplaying in Muds Solmyr of the Azure Star
- Roleplaying in Muds Travis Casey
- Roleplaying in Muds Jeremy Noetzelman
- Classless systems Ryan P.
- Classless systems J C Lawrence
- Classless systems Ben
- Classless systems Ben
- Classless systems Christopher Allen
- Classless systems J C Lawrence
- Classless systems David Bennett
- Classless systems J C Lawrence
- Classless systems adam@treyarch.com
- Classless systems Val Trullinger
- Classless systems Ling Lo
- Classless systems David Bennett
- Classless systems Steve Houchard
- Classless systems David Bennett
- Classless systems Steve Houchard
- Classless systems Mordengaard
- Classless systems Gabriel
- Classless systems Travis Casey
- Classless systems Brian 'Psychochild' Green
- Classless systems Val Trullinger
- eXistenZ Richard Tew
- Scaling a world. Saereth2000@aol.com
- Scaling a world. Bruce
- Scaling a world. Patrick Dughi
- Scaling a world. Nat Blundell
- Scaling a world. Patrick Dughi
- Scaling a world. David Bennett
- AutoClass Ling Lo
- AutoClass Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Required EXP algorithms Ben
- Required EXP algorithms Travis Casey
- Questing Systems Ben
- Questing Systems Chris Gray
- Questing Systems Nathan Clemons
- Questing Systems Mordengaard
- Questing Systems Travis Casey
- Questing Systems John Hopson
- Questing Systems Raph Koster
- Questing Systems Kristen L. Koster
- Questing Systems Todd McKimmey
- Questing Systems Malcolm Valentine
- Questing Systems Malcolm Tester
- Thoughts on Classless systems Travis Casey
- Thoughts on Classless systems Greg Miller
- Thoughts on Classless systems Josh Anderson
- Thoughts on Classless systems Ben
- Thoughts on Classless systems Ryan P.
- Thoughts on Classless systems Raph Koster
- Thoughts on Classless systems David Bennett
- Thoughts on Classless systems Koster, Raph
- Thoughts on Classless systems Malcolm Valentine
- Basic principles of reinforcement for muds John Hopson
- Basic principles of reinforcement for muds Matthew Mihaly
- Basic principles of reinforcement for muds Tess Lowe
- Basic principles of reinforcement for muds Dave Rickey
- Realism and NPCs Ben
- Realism and NPCs Travis Casey
- Realism and NPCs Christopher Allen
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Ben
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Travis Casey
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Raph Koster
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Patrick Dughi
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Raph Koster
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Patrick Dughi
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Gabriel
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Koster, Raph
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Malcolm Valentine
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Mordengaard
- Balance... RPG or Role-Playing Game? Malcolm Valentine
- [rpg-create] Martial arts rules (fwd) J C Lawrence
- SQL and Muds Jeremy Noetzelman
- SQL and Muds J C Lawrence
- SQL and Muds Nathan Clemons
- [rpg-create] Maneuvers (fwd) J C Lawrence
- Memory, the Brain, and Dogma rayzam
- emlenmud Josh Rollyson
- emlenmud Greg Miller
- How to Hurt the Hackers: The Scoop on Internet Cheating and How You Can Combat It by Matt Pritchard J C Lawrence
- How to Hurt the Hackers: The Scoop on Internet Cheating and How You Can Combat It by Matt Pritchard Caliban Tiresias Darklock
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- How to Hurt the Hackers: The Scoop on Internet Cheating and How You Can Combat It by Matt Pritchard Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
- Getting info from NPCs Dmitri Zagidulin
- Getting info from NPCs Josh Anderson
- Getting info from NPCs Patrick Dughi
- Getting info from NPCs Warren Powell
- Getting info from NPCs Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services
- Getting info from NPCs Travis Casey
- Getting info from NPCs Lazarus
- Skill defaulting Ryan "BC|Uller" Myers
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- Skill defaulting Mordengaard
- Skill defaulting Ryan "BC|Uller" Myers
- Skill defaulting Marian Griffith
- Skill defaulting rayzam
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- Roleplaying vs Immersion Matthew Mihaly
- Roleplaying vs Immersion Miroslav Silovic
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Bruce
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Greg Underwood
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Bruce
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA J C Lawrence
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA KevinL
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Patrick Dughi
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA KevinL
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Bruce
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA Greg Underwood
- On Lockless Threading and X/Open XA J C Lawrence
- WorldForge Acorn demo 0.1 alpha released Alistair Riddoch
- Threading Models and Command Queues Ben
- Medievia advertises in Dragon magazine Charles Hughes
- MUD Wimping Michael Tresca
- MUD Wimping Dan Shiovitz
- MUD Wimping Matthew Mihaly
- MUD Wimping Michael Tresca
On Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:58 AM Dan Shiovitz wrote:
> So if you don't do the kind of kind of wimping he hates, I don't think
> there's any alternative to doing regular player wipes. The win that way is
> it's scheduled; the players can know it, plan for it, have little goodbye
> parties.
Actually, we've never done a player wipe. I think playerwiping is never an
absolute necessity unless it's very clearly testing -- in which case, I
don't consider it a wipe. While it may take extra effort to "fix"
characters, long term players enjoy that status. Six years, no wipes, and
I'd say we're the better for it.
> You can say "ok, we'll just make a different guarantee with the players,
> we'll tell them everything, including skills, can change without
> notice". But it won't work, I promise. People can't play under that sort
> of setup, so what they'll do is they'll look at the guarantee and what
> they'll read is still "We promise not to change the way skills work".
I absolutely agree. If the only promise you make is no promises, you get
one of two reactions:
1) Players stop seeing that warning because it's there all the time. I
don't recall the term, but basically you can flash "You are being snooped"
over someone's email login every time the access email, but eventually they
don't see it and forget about it completely. Similarly, players will forget
about the claim that you said you can change things at a whim. Then they'll
be pissed off at you when you do change things, which of course ruins the
purpose of warning them about it in the first place.
2) People view the place as more unstable than other MUDs who do not shove
the fact that almost all of these games are ever-evolving in their faces.
So the MUD that gives the ILLUSION of stability wins.
This is what Tenarius is revealing in his wimping rant, that the illusion is
just simply that, an illusion, and he's bitter about it. But it seems to me
that the nature of the MUD development paradigm is entirely based on this
illusion -- ideally, players don't see when things break, they don't know
the code behind your interactive NPC, and they don't realize that you
tweaked the monster several times since you created it. This almost never
happens though -- players are usually recruited to fix things, because
there's more of them than you (the coders) and therefore they're in the best
situation to resolve and catch problems. On the other hand, sometimes
coders must take overt and obvious action to correct these problems.
Tenarius finds this "revealing of the illusion" to be unacceptable.
Or I should say, it's only unacceptable if the CODERS reveal the illusion.
It's okay if players abuse the game, do things they're not supposed to, and
reveal the flaws of the gaming experience. It's no longer a believable and
immersive fantasy world experience, it's Bob with his +50 Bobslayer who
found out it kills everything in one hit. It's okay for Bob to reveal that
it's just a game, but coders can't apparently step out from behind the
curtain to fix it.
Seems like circular logic to me.
Tenarius states:
> Nobody wants a long term commitment that fluctuates. How would you
> like to be married to someone that would fluctuate in how much they
> do drugs, commit adultery or beat you?
He wants the illusion of stability to be the actual reality, which is a
guaranteed way to give your MUD a long, very slow death. All games
fluctuate (and I'd submit, as do all relationships). The difference is
Tenarius assumes that changes are inherently abusive.
And when is it okay to finally modify things? According to Tenarius:
> As long as they are not maliciously hurting each other leave em
> be and let them have fun!
Apparently, "maliciously hurting each other" is a purely moral judgment.
I'm not sure if this would exclude player-killing. It certainly seems very
peculiar -- I know of no MUD where one player hasn't at one point or another
attempted to be malicious to another. That's the side effect of millions of
people potentially having access to your game through the Internet.
> Unless your mud is dropping in players because massive numbers
> of them are telling you 'this twink mud is too easy so I am
> quitting', let them be!
So this would mean that until your MUD is in serious danger, with players
leaving in "massive numbers" (which for many MUDs could mean losing 10
players or more), you are not within your rights to fix anything.
Dan Shiovitz asked:
> Anyone have an example of a player base taking a largish code change well,
> and saying "man, that was a good change even if it hurt in the short
> term"?
Yessir, we did just that. We had vigorous arguments with players about why
mages weren't allowed to wear bulky armor. Then we decided to create a
system out of that vigorous arguing, the bulk system, which amusingly enough
matches the Arms Law system by ICE (and I've seen elsewhere). We divided
bulk into 4 categories: clothing (light), leather (flexible), chain
(semi-flexible), plate (inflexible). For every armor slot taken up, it
reduces certain skills by a percentage. The more slots taken up, the less
effetive your skills are based on their type -- the Armed Combat category
will work fine with plate, but the Stealth category won't.
We also made a Spell Bulk setting. Religious guilds that are warrior-like
were able to cast spells with more armor on, than the mage who needed room
to gesture and concentrate. In all cases, the characters could wear various
amounts of armor of different bulks, but the more they wore, the more
penalties they accumulated. It was no longer an all or nothing deal (like
AD&D was).
The change caused a lot of hysteria, because while some folks increased in
power because they could now take advantage of armor they didn't have
before, an equal number of players found themselves restricted in ways they
hadn't been previously. Those players screamed a wicked flame that burned
for several months.
About a year later, the bulk change was publicly acknowledged by the players
as one of the best we'd made. We regularly get congratulations by high
level players for our efforts to balance the game, but according to
Tenarius, those are those are either Self-Preservationists or Ass-Kissers.
Tenarius leaves no room for players and coders to work in conjunction with
the development of a game. You're either for them, or you're against them.
In reality, coders are always willing participants in game development. The
players may or may not be willing -- but they are ALWAYS participants.
Michael "Talien" Tresca
Gamers.com MUD Department
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