June 1999

• Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Mark Gritter
• • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Travis S. Casey
    • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Travis Casey
        • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
          • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Travis S. Casey
      • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Jp Calderone
      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Travis Casey
    • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Cynbe ru Taren
  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Koster, Raph
  • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
    • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Koster, Raph
      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
        • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
          • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
            • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ben Greear
              • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                    • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Jon A. Lambert
                      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                        • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ben Greear
                        • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
                  • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                    • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
                      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                        • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Munt
                        • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                      • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Darren Henderson
                      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                        • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Munt
                          • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                            • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
                              • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
                              • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
                                • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Miroslav Silovic
                                  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Alex Oren
                            • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Darren Henderson
                            • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
                            • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) David Bennett
                          • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Darren Henderson
                  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ross Nicoll
              • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
              • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
            • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
            • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
            • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Koster, Raph
          • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
        • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ross Nicoll
    • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Jon A. Lambert
    • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
    • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Jon A. Lambert
      • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
        • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Jon A. Lambert
          • • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Greg Miller
            • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Koster, Raph
        • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Ben Greear
    • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Chris Gray
  • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• IndustrialMUD J C Lawrence
• • IndustrialMUD Greg Miller
• Combat (very long) Matthew Mihaly
• • Combat (very long) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Combat (very long) Matthew Mihaly
    • • Combat (very long) Marian Griffith
• What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Chris Gray
  • • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Matthew Mihaly
      • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Chris Gray
      • • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • What about goal oriented interfaces? (was Text Parsing) Adam Wiggins
• thoughts Matthew Mihaly
• • thoughts Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • thoughts Jon A. Lambert
  • • thoughts Matthew Mihaly
• Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
• • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
  • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • • Game Economies Marian Griffith
    • • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • • Game Economies Marian Griffith
        • • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
          • • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
            • • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
              • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
            • Game Economies J C Lawrence
      • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
      • • Game Economies Koster, Raph
        • • Game Economies J C Lawrence
          • • Game Economies Adam Wiggins
          • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
          • • Game Economies Greg Miller
            • Game Economies Ross Nicoll
            • • Game Economies Koster, Raph
              • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
              • • Game Economies Jo Dillon
                • Game Economies Ross Nicoll
            • Game Economies Marian Griffith
          • Game Economies Jo Dillon
          • Game Economies Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
          • • Game Economies Koster, Raph
          • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
            "Koster, Raph" wrote:
            >
            > I've usually stated this as "muds are in large part about preventing normal
            > social progress." You don't WANT players to advance socially TOO far because
            > the end result of advancement as a civilization is peace, prosperity, high
            > living standards, and (in a game sense) boredom.
            
            That makes sense, particularly in a MUD where players are primarily
            competing with the world. If players are competing with each other (PvP
            combat, competing for scarce resources, or just to see who can rack up
            the most experience) then innovation is a DEstabilizing force.
            
            True innovation, whether in the real world or a MUD, changes the rules
            of the game. In doing so, it can cause a massive effective transfer of
            wealth, which is a sure way to cause conflict.
            
            > The reference is just this list. :) Basically, the premise is that what
            > people are looking for is social recognition, attention from others,
            > respect, interaction. In the real world, subsistence and other factors make
            > this a lower priority. In online, this is magnified greatly because there
            > generally IS no subsistence. There's many a player on muds who has gone
            > inactive in terms of the game, but remains a major figure because of their
            > social connections, their position in the community, etc.
            
            I was making a false connection to Herb Simon, who's generally credited
            with the concept of the "attention economy" (references in previous
            post). It's also questionable how different this is from the real-world
            economy, and is certainly one of the things we want to experiment with,
            since it's something we *can't* really experiment with in a laboratory
            experiment.
            
            There's various studies trying to relate status and economic behavior.
            There's Veblen, of course, with _The_Theory_of_the_Leisure_Class_.
            There's the potlatch. We're currently trying to recreate a study done of
            chimpanzees and reciprocal giving, which indicated that not only were
            exchanges reciprocal but that high-status chimps were more generous than
            low-status chimps.
            
            To take more concrete examples, both Ghandi and Lenin were technically
            paupers.
            
            > > > Two additional systems I have seen in use that had a
            > > devastating effect on
            > > > the typical play were limiting money found on a monster in
            > > relation to the
            > > > total amount of money owned by the players.
            >
            > We did something like that on UO for a while--the total quantity of gold in
            > the system was tied to the total size of the playerbase, and goods/gold on
            > monsters (or issued by shops) was tied to how much remained in the "bank"
            > (eg, not in play, either on monsters or in players' hands).
            
            I'm not sure whether I misunderstood or you did. I guess it doesn't
            matter much, since Marian says the MUD in question is long-gone. I
            interpreted it as the amount of loot on a monster was inversely
            proportional to the wealth of the player looting the monster, rather
            than the wealth of the entire economy. The former correlate to a
            progressive income tax (actually a wealth/income hybrid tax).
            
            ------------------------------
            Timothy O'Neill Dang/Cretog8
            timothy@nmia.com
            H: 505-843-6966
            W: 505-244-8803
            One monkey don't stop no show
          • • Game Economies Marian Griffith
        • Game Economies J C Lawrence
        • • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
          • • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
        • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
    • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
    • • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • Game Economies Jo Dillon
      • • Game Economies Timothy O'Neill Dang
        • • Game Economies Jo Dillon
          • • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
            • • Game Economies Koster, Raph
              • • Game Economies J C Lawrence
              • Game Economies Greg Munt
              • • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
                • • Game Economies Jon A. Lambert
                  • • Game Economies Shawn Halpenny
                    • • Game Economies Brandon J. Rickman
                      • • Game Economies Jon A. Lambert
                    • Game Economies Shane King
                • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                • • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
                • Game Economies Koster, Raph
              • Game Economies Nathan F Yospe
      • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • Game Economies J C Lawrence
  • Game Economies J C Lawrence
  • • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
      • • Game Economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
        • Game Economies Koster, Raph
        • • Game Economies Brandon J. Rickman
          • Game Economies Marian Griffith
          • • Game Economies Katrina McClelan
            • • Game Economies Adam Wiggins
              • • Game Economies Katrina McClelan
                • • Game Economies Albert
                  • • Game Economies Jp Calderone
                    • • Game Economies Laurel Fan
                      • • Game Economies Albert
              • Game Economies Charles Hughes
        • Game Economies J C Lawrence
        • • Game Economies Matthew Mihaly
          • • Game Economies Mik Clarke
          • Game Economies Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Game Economies Ling
  • • Game Economies Ling
    • • Game Economies Mik Clarke
• Rooms Greg Munt
• • Rooms Matthew Mihaly
  • • Rooms Chris Gray
  • Rooms Koster, Raph
  • Rooms Ross Nicoll
  • • Rooms Greg Miller
    • • Rooms Ross Nicoll
      • • Rooms Greg Miller
        • • Rooms Richard Woolcock
          • Rooms Ross Nicoll
  • Rooms Chris Gray
  • Rooms Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Rooms Marian Griffith
  • • Rooms Ross Nicoll
  • Rooms Travis S. Casey
• Parsing Text Output Jon A. Lambert
• • Parsing Text Output Chris Gray
• MUD-Dev request rejected Greg Miller
• Interface/Custom Clients Greg Miller
• Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing)y Mark Gritter
• • Languages (slightly offtopic, was Text Parsing)y Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Greg Munt
• • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Matthew Mihaly
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Koster, Raph
  • • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Ross Nicoll
    • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Matthew Mihaly
    • • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Koster, Raph
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Ross Nicoll
  • • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or againsteach other? Greg Miller
    • • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or againsteach other? Ross Nicoll
      • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or againsteach other? Matthew Mihaly
      • • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or againsteach other? Ross Nicoll
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Richard Bartle
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or againsteach other? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Christopher Allen
• Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Richard Bartle
• • Pay Muds & Free Muds - working together, or against each other? Ross Nicoll
• CVS repository for ScryMUD is online at scry.wanfear.com Ben Greear
• Mihaly's Combat Greg Munt
• • Mihaly's Combat Matthew Mihaly
• Looking for UML David95037@aol.com
• • Looking for UML Greg Munt
  • • Looking for UML David95037@aol.com
• Slogans (Game Economies) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Slogans (Game Economies) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• A couple Qs, and thanks Ben Greear
• Understanding and "should-ness" Matthew Mihaly
• • Understanding and "should-ness" Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Personalities J C Lawrence
• realism Matthew Mihaly
• • realism Jon A. Lambert
  • • realism Marian Griffith
    • • realism Jon A. Lambert
  • realism Miroslav Silovic
  • • realism Matthew Mihaly
    • • realism Miroslav Silovic
      • • realism Matthew Mihaly
  • realism Jp Calderone
  • • realism Martin C Sweitzer
  • realism Marian Griffith
  • • realism Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • realism J C Lawrence
• Gender and Mud Development Nathan F Yospe
• • Gender and Mud Development Greg Miller
  • Gender and Mud Development Katrina McClelan
  • Gender and Mud Development Jon A. Lambert
  • • Gender and Mud Development Matthew Mihaly
    • • Gender and Mud Development Jon A. Lambert
    • Gender and Mud Development Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Gender and Mud Development David Holz
      • Gender and Mud Development Jon A. Lambert
      • • Gender and Mud Development Matthew Mihaly
        • Gender and Mud Development Greg Miller
    • Gender and Mud Development J C Lawrence
    • • Gender and Mud Development Koster, Raph
      • • Gender and Mud Development J C Lawrence
    • Gender and Mud Development Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Gender and Mud Development J C Lawrence
  • Gender and Mud Development Koster, Raph
  • • Gender and Mud Development Greg Munt
    • Gender and Mud Development Greg Miller
    • Gender and Mud Development Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Gender and Mud Development Marian Griffith
  • • Gender and Mud Development Matthew Mihaly
    • • Gender and Mud Development Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • Gender and Mud Development Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • Gender and Mud Development Adam Wiggins
      • • Gender and Mud Development Travis S. Casey
      • Gender and Mud Development Marian Griffith
• Newbies (was Text Parsing) John Hopson
• • Newbies (was Text Parsing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Average play time? Timothy O'Neill Dang
• • Average play time? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Average play time? Koster, Raph
• {OT} Gender and Mud Development Wendy Winkler
• AOL lawsuit (was text parsing) Koster, Raph
• Sexual archetypes claw@kanga.nu
• Systems and concepts Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Katrina McClelan
• • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Koster, Raph
  • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Greg Miller
  • • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) J C Lawrence
  • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Jon A. Lambert
• Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Kristen Koster
• • Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Greg Miller
  • • Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Kristen Koster
  • Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Jon A. Lambert
  • • Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Kristen Koster
    • Games within Games [Was: Gender and Mud Development] Marian Griffith
• Tactical Combat and Traps (was the gender thread) Katrina McClelan
• Game construction and a big mistake Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Game construction and a big mistake Marc Bowden
  • • Game construction and a big mistake Greg Miller
    • Game construction and a big mistake Matthew Mihaly
    • Game construction and a big mistake Willowreed@aol.com
    • • Game construction and a big mistake Jo Dillon
      • Game construction and a big mistake Ling
• Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Koster, Raph
• • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) claw@kanga.nu
  • • Gender and Mud Development (back on topic, some) Marc Bowden
• Client-Server vs. Peer-to-Peer -- Implementing DIS on the Internet claw@kanga.nu
• • Client-Server vs. Peer-to-Peer -- Implementing DIS on the Internet Niklas Elmqvist
• Goals and directions (was the gender thing) Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #93 - 27 msgs Dr. Cat
• • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #93 - 27 msgs Greg Miller
  • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #93 - 27 msgs Koster, Raph
  • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #93 - 27 msgs Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Gender and Mud Development (drifting off topic again) S. Patrick Gallaty
• Laws of Online World Design (was: realism) Koster, Raph
• Game construction and a big mistake Koster, Raph
• memory and speed Matthew Mihaly
• • memory and speed Adam Wiggins
  • • memory and speed J C Lawrence
  • memory and speed J C Lawrence
  • • memory and speed Matthew Mihaly
    • • memory and speed Adam Wiggins
  • memory and speed Chris Gray
  • • memory and speed Miroslav Silovic
  • memory and speed Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • memory and speed Mark Gritter
  • memory and speed Ben Greear
  • • memory and speed Matthew Mihaly
  • memory and speed S. Patrick Gallaty
  • • memory and speed Adam Wiggins
    • • memory and speed Brad Leach
  • memory and speed Petri Virkkula
• Virtual worlds based on real world history Greg Munt
• Stockmarkets... Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Games within Games Jesse Farinacci
• ADMIN: Posting authority J C Lawrence
• thoughts on game economies Travis S. Casey
• • thoughts on game economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • thoughts on game economies Travis Casey
    • • thoughts on game economies Koster, Raph
      • • thoughts on game economies Travis S. Casey
        • • thoughts on game economies Koster, Raph
          • • thoughts on game economies Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
            • • thoughts on game economies Jo Dillon
              • thoughts on game economies Greg Miller
              • • thoughts on game economies Matthew Mihaly
                • • thoughts on game economies Greg Miller
                  • • thoughts on game economies Matthew Mihaly
                  • thoughts on game economies Jeremy Music "Sterling"
                  • • thoughts on game economies Robert Brady
    • thoughts on game economies Ling
    • • thoughts on game economies Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • thoughts on game economies Alex Oren
      • thoughts on game economies Albert
      • • thoughts on game economies Adam Wiggins
        • thoughts on game economies Travis S. Casey
      • thoughts on game economies Travis S. Casey
• memory and speed Matthew Mihaly
• • memory and speed Shawn Halpenny
• Game economics Matthew Mihaly
• • Game economics Nathan F Yospe
• Playing the monsters David95037@aol.com
• • Playing the monsters Katrina McClelan
  • Playing the monsters Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• How to debug a method taking a variable list of arguments? Ben Greear
• • How to debug a method taking a variable list of arguments? Chris Gray
  • How to debug a method taking a variable list of arguments? Ben Greear
• Twisted Reality claw@kanga.nu
• ADMIN: Searching on MUD-Dev archives claw@kanga.nu
• Object Obsolescence [ WAS: thoughts on game economies ] Shawn Halpenny
• SAR Adam Wiggins
• speed problems update Matthew Mihaly
• • speed problems update Quzah [softhome]
• ADMIN: NoMail Subscriptions -- please reconfigure J C Lawrence
• Fwd: Books on Compilers Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• UM2 Greg Munt
• 3D Anarchy Adam Wiggins
• Properties of computer languages Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• • Properties of computer languages Jon Leonard
  • Properties of computer languages Mark Gritter
  • Properties of computer languages Cynbe ru Taren
  • • Properties of computer languages Travis S. Casey
  • Properties of computer languages David95037@aol.com
  • Properties of computer languages Travis S. Casey
  • Properties of computer languages Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
  • • Properties of computer languages Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Properties of computer languages Joey Hess
      • Properties of computer languages Chris Gray
      • Properties of computer languages David95037@aol.com
      • • Properties of computer languages Adam Wiggins
  • Properties of computer languages Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Properties of computer languages Mik Clarke
• Different approaches? Dani Dumitrescu
• • Different approaches? Koster, Raph
• i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. PartyG2816@aol.com
• • i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. Marc Hernandez
  • i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. Jim Clark
  • i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. PartyG2816@aol.com
  • • i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. Joey Hess
    • i got's a question for yall on the best way to dosomething.. Mik Clarke
    • • i got's a question for yall on the best way to dosomething.. Jp Calderone
  • i got's a question for yall on the best way to do something.. PartyG2816@aol.com
• Game Design [Simulation] Justin Lockshaw
• MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #105 - 12 msgs Dr. Cat
• • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #105 - 12 msgs Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #105 - 12 msgs Chris Gray
  • • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #105 - 12 msgs Mik Clarke
  • MUD-Dev digest, Vol 1 #105 - 12 msgs Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
• A little off topic - anyone receiving multiple copies of list mail? Charles Hughes
• Role playing and Multiple Goals John Bertoglio
• Critiquing Muds Marian Griffith
• • Critiquing Muds Koster, Raph
  • Critiquing Muds Travis Casey
  • • Critiquing Muds Marian Griffith
    • • Critiquing Muds Travis Casey
      • • Critiquing Muds Caliban Tiresias Darklock
        • • Critiquing Muds Marian Griffith
      • Critiquing Muds Jon A. Lambert
  • Critiquing Muds Koster, Raph
  • • Critiquing Muds Matthew Mihaly
    • • Critiquing Muds Koster, Raph
      • Critiquing Muds Damion Schubert
    • Critiquing Muds Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Critiquing Muds Michael Willey
  • • Critiquing Muds Jon A. Lambert
• MUD-Dev: An apology J C Lawrence