May 1999

• Object server. Quzah [softhome]
• Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion J C Lawrence
• OT: Ethics v Law Greg Munt
• Virtual v Artificial Worlds Greg Munt
• • Virtual v Artificial Worlds Matthew Mihaly
• Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Wes Connell
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? David Bennett
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Koster, Raph
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Greg Munt
  • Custom Server Roll Call? The Arrow
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Alex Stewart
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Nathan F Yospe
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
          • • Custom Server Roll Call? Matthew Mihaly
            • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
            • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
            • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Gray
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Marc Hernandez
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Greg Munt
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Matthew Mihaly
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? J C Lawrence
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Ling
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Niklas Elmqvist
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Gray
      • Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Gray
        • • Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
          • • Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Gray
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • Custom Server Roll Call? J C Lawrence
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Marc Hernandez
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jo Dillon
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • Custom Server Roll Call? Marc Hernandez
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • • Custom Server Roll Call? Marc Hernandez
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Adam Wiggins
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Matthew Mihaly
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
    • Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? claw@kanga.nu
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Turner
  • Custom Server Roll Call? Ling
  • • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Custom Server Roll Call? Jay Carlson
      • • Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • Custom Server Roll Call? Ling
• Interesting dilemma Peck, Matthew x96724c1
• • Interesting dilemma Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • Interesting dilemma Quzah [softhome]
  • Interesting dilemma Brandon A Downey
  • Interesting dilemma Shawn Halpenny
  • • Interesting dilemma Matthew Mihaly
  • Interesting dilemma Benjamin D. Wiechel
  • Interesting dilemma Koster, Raph
  • Interesting dilemma Wes Connell
  • Interesting dilemma Mattias Lönnqvist
  • Interesting dilemma Mik Clarke
  • Interesting dilemma Joel Kelso
  • Interesting dilemma Ronan Farrell
• Harvey's Rules of Immship John Hopson
• Confiscating items (Interesting dilemma) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• AW: Interesting dilemma Hofbauer Heinz
• Virtual Property J C Lawrence
• • Virtual Property Koster, Raph
  • • Virtual Property Jon A. Lambert
• Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Ben Greear
• • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Mik Clarke
  • • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Ben Greear
    • • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? J C Lawrence
      • • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Ben Greear
        • • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Sunny Gulati
            Ben Greear wrote:
            >
            > J C Lawrence wrote:
            > >
            >
            > > In a long prior life I hacked a tool to build maps from telnet game
            > > logs. The algorithm was simple:
            > >
            > > 1) Pull out all command lines which contain a directional command
            > > (U/D/N/NE/E/SE/S/SW/W/NW) and the next line of output (the room
            > > desciption of the room moved to).
            > >
            > > 2) Trim out all error/"You can't do that" entries.
            >
            > I will be working from my world database, and so can make complex, and
            > arbitrarily correct assumptions about the exits et al. I can also
            > do things like stop at zone boundaries and so on...
            >
            > > 4) Build a graph of nodes representing thr trimmed log (just walk
            > > down the log, adding nodes as new locations are found).
            >
            > Care to elaborate on that part?
            >
            [rest snipped]
            
            When I did stuff like this a few years ago, I ran into problems of
            changes of resolution: for example, while within a city, each "room" was
            relatively close to the other, and once you left the city.. the scope
            expanded. And entering a wizard's realm, sometimes going North, East,
            South, West, didn't bring you back to where you started.
            
            Even more common:
            
            [street]--[street]
            | |
            [shop] [street2]
            
            and in the shop:
            
            [street]
            |
            [shop]-[behindthecounter]
            
            [behindthecounter] would bump into [street2]
            
            the problem is that the maps would "bump" into each other in very
            non-visually-pleasing ways.
            
            Method 1 to solve it was scoping things (which I picked out of the
            filename for the room (this was LPC)).
            
            Method 2 was interesting: Whenever you're going to "bump" into
            something, you do the equivalent of inserting a bunch of blank columns
            or rows into your graph, and then try again. It kinda worked.
            
            Method 3 was: If we're going to bump into something, don't map it on
            this page, draw it on a seperate page. I got a lot of pages; our mud
            wasn't very well planned.
            
            Method 4 (which I did not try) was: choose some level at which to group
            things together so they map well. If they don't map well, go back and
            subdivide the groups. [human intervention would be cool there]
            
            Algorithm was kinda like this:
            do {
            Z dimension = 0
            put a starting point on the map somewhere;
            // possibly set up "current scope" info as well
            do {
            for every point that's on the map
            if there's an exit we haven't followed yet
            find out if that exit is followable (ie, maybe you don't want
            different wizard's stuff to pop up on the same map)
            find out if that exit's target room has already been mapped
            (if so, is it in the right spot? if not, log it as a
            problem)
            if not, put it on the map:
            if the place we were going to place it is occupied
            "bump" or log or [your choice]
            endif
            endif
            endif
            next
            } until we_could_do_nothing_this_last_pass
            increase Z dimension
            } until there are no more rooms left to map
            
            I ended up writing an object that would run around in the mud making
            notes of rooms and the exits within them; this object wrote to a log
            file like so:
            
            /room/file/name
            north: /other/room/file/name
            east: /other/room/file/name/also
            down: /yet/another/room/file/name
            
            then, a different program parsed through the log file, calculated
            coordinates (I used X,Y and "Z", Z being a page number), and stuck them
            right back into the logfile:
            
            /room/file/name 45 60 0
            north: /other/room/file/name 45 61 0
            east: /other/room/file/name/also 46 60 0
            down: /yet/another/room/file/name 39 25 2
            
            I think I wrote that part in perl, or clipper [I was a clipper
            programmer back then for a living]
            
            I then had a last program go through and draw these suckers on a screen
            (in clipper, using some graphics library or the other). That's about
            when I shelved the project, other things became more interesting.
            
            Cheers,
            Sunny
  • Autogenerating maps from muds using cardinal directions for exits? Jon A. Lambert
• Discussion of large server IO handling desing J C Lawrence
• Planes of existance Quzah [softhome]
• • Planes of existance Greg Munt
  • • Planes of existance Quzah [softhome]
    • Planes of existance Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • • Planes of existance Ben Greear
      • • Planes of existance Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • Planes of existance Greg Munt
      • • Planes of existance T. Alexander Popiel
        • • Planes of existance Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • Planes of existance Matthew Mihaly
• Dynamically changing room descriptions Ronan Farrell
• • Dynamically changing room descriptions Mik Clarke
  • Dynamically changing room descriptions Ben Greear
  • • Dynamically changing room descriptions Koster, Raph
    • • Dynamically changing room descriptions Richard Bartle
      • Dynamically changing room descriptions Matthew Mihaly
  • Dynamically changing room descriptions Travis Casey
  • Dynamically changing room descriptions Travis Casey
  • • Dynamically changing room descriptions Ola Fosheim Grøstad
    • Dynamically changing room descriptions Jon A. Lambert
    • • Dynamically changing room descriptions Ola Fosheim Grøstad
      • Dynamically changing room descriptions Eli Stevens {KiZurich/GreySylk}
      • • Dynamically changing room descriptions Jon A. Lambert
    • Dynamically changing room descriptions Ling
  • Dynamically changing room descriptions Christopher Allen
• old fight system I toyed with Koster, Raph
• APE 0.2.1 J C Lawrence
• • APE 0.2.1 Marc Hernandez
  • • APE 0.2.1 claw@kanga.nu
• OT: robots, agents and emotions Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • OT: robots, agents and emotions Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Time Discontinuous MUD Ling
• Semi-OT: International intellectual property right (was: Custom Server Roll Call?) Custom Server Roll Call?) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Semi-OT: International intellectual property rights Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• Marc Hernandez' Server Greg Munt
• • Marc Hernandez' Server Jay Carlson
  • • Marc Hernandez' Server Caliban Tiresias Darklock
    • Marc Hernandez' Server Travis S. Casey
    • Marc Hernandez' Server Adam Wiggins
  • Marc Hernandez' Server Marc Hernandez
  • Marc Hernandez' Server qitelremel@hotmail.com
• Scry 1.9.1 (Feature Freeze) released. Ben Greear
• The distinction between magic spells and magic abilities Greg Munt
• • The distinction between magic spells and magic abilities Matthew Mihaly
• Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
• • Multi-threaded mud server. Caliban Tiresias Darklock
  • • Multi-threaded mud server. Jon A. Lambert
    • • Multi-threaded mud server. Jo Dillon
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Travis S. Casey
        • Multi-threaded mud server. Jon A. Lambert
        • Multi-threaded mud server. Chris Gray
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Chris Gray
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Jon A. Lambert
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Mik Clarke
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Chris Gray
        • • Multi-threaded mud server. Mik Clarke
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
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    • • Multi-threaded mud server. Jon A. Lambert
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Caliban Tiresias Darklock
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Mark Gritter
        • Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Travis S. Casey
      • • Multi-threaded mud server. Ola Fosheim Grøstad
        • Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
    • Multi-threaded mud server. Ola Fosheim Grøstad
  • Multi-threaded mud server. David Bennett
  • • Multi-threaded mud server. Ross Nicoll
    • • Multi-threaded mud server. Jon A. Lambert
      • Multi-threaded mud server. Travis Casey
• Macro languages Caliban Tiresias Darklock
• LOTR and Mud [was: Marc Hernandez' Server] Marc Hernandez
• Noise: boys will be boys (was Multi-threaded mud server.) Ola Fosheim Grøstad
• • Noise: boys will be boys (was Multi-t hreaded mud server.) Koster, Raph
  • Noise: boys will be boys (was Multi-threaded mud server.) Chris Gray
• Kanga.Nu has finally moved... claw@kanga.nu
• Java & MUD servers Laurent Bossavit
• ScryMUD 1.9.3 released. Ben Greear
• • ScryMUD 1.9.3 released. Chris Gray
  • • ScryMUD 1.9.3 released. Ben Greear
  • ScryMUD 1.9.3 released. Jon A. Lambert
• [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Ben Greear
• • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). bruce@puremagic.com
  • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Greg Miller
  • • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Ben Greear
    • • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Greg Miller
      • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Albert
  • [TECHNICAL] How to generate pre-processor output (template problem). Oliver Jowett
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• [TECHNICAL] [SOLVED] (template problem). Ben Greear
• [RELEASE] ScryMUD 1.9.4 available for download. Ben Greear