May 1999
- Object server. Quzah [softhome]
- Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion J C Lawrence
- OT: Ethics v Law Greg Munt
- Virtual v Artificial Worlds Greg Munt
- Virtual v Artificial Worlds Matthew Mihaly
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Custom Server Roll Call? Wes Connell
- Custom Server Roll Call? David Bennett
- Custom Server Roll Call? Koster, Raph
- Custom Server Roll Call? Greg Munt
- Custom Server Roll Call? The Arrow
- Custom Server Roll Call? Alex Stewart
- Custom Server Roll Call? Nathan F Yospe
- Custom Server Roll Call? Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Matthew Mihaly
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Chris Gray
- Custom Server Roll Call? Marc Hernandez
- Custom Server Roll Call? Greg Munt
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Matthew Mihaly
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Custom Server Roll Call? J C Lawrence
- Custom Server Roll Call? Ling
- Custom Server Roll Call? Jon A. Lambert
- Custom Server Roll Call? Emil Eifrem
- Custom Server Roll Call? Niklas Elmqvist
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Emil Eifrem wrote:
> Technically, our server design is heavily inspired by general
> discussions here on the MUD-Dev and particularly DevMUD list -- we use
> a modular architecture with separate code entities (modules) that can
> be dynamically attached and detached from a static kernel. I believe
> my implementation (or try at implementation) is maybe more object
> oriented than DevMUD and mainly inspired by early ideas from some OO
> proponents on the list (Niklas Elmqvist and others, IIRC).
Oooh! I'm honored! Yes, I *was* (and still am) heavily in favor of an OO
implementation of DevMUD, but I haven't done much on that project since my
first and only module contribution half a year ago (and my module wasn't
very novel anyway). It is with a certain amount of pride I can state that
I was one of the zealots that made Chris Gray come up with his current
cynical signature, right Chris? :)
Of course, I am still plotting and refining my OO server design, and hope
to be able to implement it someday. A lot of the feedback I got from the
list has made me do some significant changes to the better (I now use a
publish/subscribe scheme instead of a "water sprinkler", as Chris labelled
it).
> Lately I've beginning to doubt this modular approach. It sounds very good
> in concept and on an abstract level, but when you get down to some real
> code it's partly really messy and troublesome.
Hehe, you don't see me *implement* this stuff, do you?
> That's probably a result of flawed design decisions on my end, though,
> it's the first time I build a system of this magnitude.
I guess the difference between good and bad design decisions is very slim
in this area -- do it just right, and you've got a real winner, but if
you're a little off, the results might be less-than-perfect. I'm not
critizing you in any way (I haven't seen your systems architecture), but
rather speaking from my own experience. Nowadays, I think I've outgrown
the start-coding-immediately syndrome and find design and analysis
extremely rewarding (almost TOO rewarding, in fact -- implementation does
not hold that certain thrill anymore).
> I've been toying with the idea of writing down my overall design
> decisions and post it to the list for comments but never gotten around
> to it.
Please do! I for one would be very interested.
[snip]
> Emil Eifrem [emil@prophecy.lu || www.prophecy.lu/~emil]
> Implementor of Prophecy [telnet://mud.prophecy.lu:4000]
> Coordinator of the Jamu effort [http://www.javamud.org]
-- Niklas Elmqvist (d97elm@dtek.chalmers.se) ----------------------
- "Are you a physicist?"
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- Custom Server Roll Call? Jo Dillon
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