June 1998

• Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
• • Playerkilling website John Bertoglio
  • • Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
    • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
  • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
• (fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• • (fwd) Multiple currencies Matt Chatterley
• Exploring the guild phenomena J C Lawrence
• Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
• • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
  • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
    • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Mike Sellers
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Richard Woolcock
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies T. Alexander Popiel
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
• • Administrative Meddling Mike Sellers
  • • Administrative Meddling Matthew R. Sheahan
    • • Administrative Meddling Mike Sellers
    • Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
    • • Administrative Meddling Mike Sellers
      • • Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
    • Administrative Meddling J C Lawrence
  • Administrative Meddling J C Lawrence
• OT: ICQ hacks and exploits J C Lawrence
• • OT: ICQ hacks and exploits Mike Sellers
  • • OT: ICQ hacks and exploits J C Lawrence
• META: membership list J C Lawrence
• META: Archives. Ling
• • META: Archives. Koster, Raph
• Levelless MUDs Holly Sommer
• • Levelless MUDs Jon Leonard
  • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
  • • Levelless MUDs John Bertoglio
    • • Levelless MUDs Koster, Raph
      • • Levelless MUDs J C Lawrence
      • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
        On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, John Bertoglio wrote:
        > From: Adam Wiggins <adam@angel.com>
        > >On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Holly Sommer wrote:
        > >> The notion of converting to levelless MUDding is floating around
        > >> the MUD I admin, and I am curious as to how this is done elsewhere
        > >> (since I personally have never set foot in a levelless MUD).
        > >
        > >Levelless muds are hard to come by in the GoP field. Skill-based muds
        > >which have levels that do almost nothing (except for providing players
        > >with easy-to-understand feedback) are much more common.
        > >
        > >Right off the top of my head, the two completely level-less muds I'd check
        > >out would be YaMUD (if it's still around, it goes up and down) and, of
        > >course, Ultima Online.
        >
        > UO has levels. They are described by prose instead on numbers and are (as
        > of this week) defined by a sophisticated two dimentional matrix...but they
        > are still levels.
        
        There's two conflicting definitions going on right here. One is the
        conventional level notation, a single number, usually with a small range
        (ie 1 to 30) which, by itself, describes a given character almost
        completely. This is the form of 'level' that I assume Holly wanted to get
        rid of.
        The second one, the one you describe, is the definition more commonly used
        on this list. Since many (most?) of us are working on games without the
        conventional level notation described above, the term "high level" or "low
        level" has come to take on new meaning. In this case it's just a general
        term to describe how experienced a given character is. Tacking a 'class'
        onto it, such as 'warrior', narrows down where they have that experience
        invested, which makes conversations about other topics quite a bit easier,
        despite the fact that there is no character->GetClass() == CL_WARRIOR or
        character->GetLevel() < LOW_LEVEL. The second definition is broad enough
        that you could apply it to almost anything, anywhere. I might be
        considered a high-level programmer but a low-level football player.
        I doubt Holly really wants to get rid of *any* method of tracking this
        sort of "level", since that would render characters into fairly simple
        shells, which are not suitable if you desire (non-social) character
        advancement to be possible.
        
        In that spirit...
        
        > >Muds very skill/spell/gold/eq-oriented to the point of rendering levels
        > >almost moot include Legend and Arctic. On Legend, levels are really only
        > >practice points (one point per level). On Arctic, levels only affect how
        > >high your skills max out - if it wasn't for that, I'd never bother to gain
        > >levels there. (As it is, you don't "work" on gaining levels, you "work"
        > >on getting up your skills and learning new skills, and gain levels by
        > >accident.)
        >
        > This is how levels should function.
        
        *shrug*...'should' isn't necessarily the word. IMO if you're going to
        have levels at all (usually an old hang-on from a previous system; Arctic
        is nearly six years old, and at the time they started levels were
        ubiquious in the mud world), this is the way to do it.
        
        > After elementry school, people stop
        > talking about grade *levels*. People who have just received a Phd. do not
        > speak of graduating from the 19th (or whatever) grade, they describe their
        > specific accomplishment.
        
        True to a certain extent. People still tend to ignore specifics...for
        instance, caring more about what school someone graduated from than what
        they majored in, or just saying, "She'll know, she's got a PhD after all"
        even when the person in question has a PhD in math and they have a
        question about botany. Of course, there's a reason for this - generally
        someone that is more experienced in general will have a higher chance of
        knowing the answer to any given problem/question than someone with a lower
        level.
        When it comes right down to it, people still care about those simplistic
        metrics of your accomplishments, as they serve as general indicators of
        your much more complex and more difficult to define set of abilities. Ie,
        a company hires an engineer because he graduated from a good school and
        has 'worked as chief engineer at Newtech Systems for 3 years' on his
        resume. Are they hiring him for those reasons? No, they are hiring him
        because he's got many skills related to the task at hand. But those
        skills are much harder to define, display, and support.
        
        > All games which allow for improvement have levels.
        
        Again, a simplification I'm ignoring in order to answer Holly's post in
        the spirit in which it was asked.
        
        > Those designed by people with limited imagination (or a mechanistic POV)
        > use numbers. It is far more satisfiying to look at a character whose war
        > necklace has 4 dragon incisors, a glowing orb, 16 human ears with earrings
        > of famous warrior clans and gold wedding band. This, along with the proper
        > facial and body tatoos would suggest that this bad puppy is a high level
        > character with a bad attitude. He doesn't have to claim to be a level 65
        > fighter...he either is one or is putting on a good show (which is itself
        > interesting from a game POV).
        
        Absolutely.
        
        > >As both a player and an admin I despise levels. I find it far easier to
        > >design, code, and play a game without such kludges.
        > >Be forewarned,
        > >however, that it makes game *balance* far more difficult to tune.
        >
        > Adam: Why would this be? Unless you are talking about things like players
        > can only fight other players within 5 levels or other artifical
        > stuff...those kind of meat axe tuning short cuts are clearly easy to tune
        > but the results are usually a joke.
        
        Well, in this case I'm speaking from direct experience, but you don't have
        to take my word for it - ask Raph. Anyhow, a simple glance at the problem
        will reveal why this is so: in one case you have a single number to
        adjust, plus some secondary values that relate directly back to that
        number. In a skill-based system, stuff is much more distributed. There
        is a large number of values, all of which affect each other in ways that
        are difficult to predict. In addition, a more complex representation of
        the characters (and, indirectly, the game world) simply implies more
        dependancies and more subtleties that can elude the designer. For
        instance, ditching levels means you now need some way to regular skill
        learning. Okay, so you make skills go up with use. But, players just sit
        around and spam skills to get them up, so you make skills only go up when
        being used 'against' something of slightly higher skill level as them (ie,
        a 45 climbing skill against a cliff rated at a 50 difficulty has a good
        chance to go up), and regulated by time (say, only once every fifteen
        minutes). This reasonably small change makes balancing advancement an
        order of magnitude more complicated. Before you'd just give them less
        "practices" for each "level". Now you have to go and push and pull
        numbers, and more specifically formulas which can get quite complex if
        you're ambitious.
        
        Not trying to argue against this at all, of course - anyone who's been
        reading the list any time for the last three or so years will know that
        I've always been a strong proponent of the stuff above. But I can
        understand how someone that wants to have simple character advancement in
        their mud without spending a lot of time working on it would stick with a
        simple metric like levels, giving them time to focus on other areas of the
        game.
        
        Adam
      • • Levelless MUDs Matt Chatterley
    • Levelless MUDs J C Lawrence
    • • Levelless MUDs Holly Sommer
      • • Levelless MUDs J C Lawrence
        • • Levelless MUDs Ben Greear
          • • Levelless MUDs Travis S. Casey
            • • Levelless MUDs Ling
              • • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
      • Levelless MUDs Travis S. Casey
      • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
  • Levelless MUDs Matt Chatterley
  • • Levelless MUDs Holly Sommer
    • • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
      • Levelless MUDs Benjamin D. Wiechel
      • Levelless MUDs Jon A. Lambert
      • Levelless MUDs Matt Chatterley
  • Levelless MUDs jacob langthorn
  • • Levelless MUDs Holly Sommer
    • • Levelless MUDs Nathan F Yospe
      • Levelless MUDs Koster, Raph
      • • Levelless MUDs Richard Woolcock
      • Levelless MUDs Katrina McClelan
      • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
      • • Levelless MUDs Adam Wiggins
        • Levelless MUDs D. B. Brown
      • Levelless MUDs Matt Chatterley
  • Levelless MUDs Larry Homer
  • • Levelless MUDs Richard Woolcock
• META: Erroneous bounce messages. J C Lawrence
• The lessons of Habitat's Dr Death repeated? J C Lawrence
• • The lessons of Habitat's Dr Death repeated? Jon A. Lambert
• In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Elis Pomales
• • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Koster, Raph
  • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Greg Munt
  • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Matt Chatterley
    • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. J C Lawrence
      • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Jo Dillon
        • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Jon A. Lambert
          • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Jo Dillon
  • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Bruce Mitchener
  • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Robert Woods
  • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Adam Wiggins
    • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Holly Sommer
      • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Richard Woolcock
        • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
          • • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Jo Dillon
  • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Matt Chatterley
  • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. J C Lawrence
• MUDZilla -- commercial server base J C Lawrence
• • MUDZilla -- commercial server base John Bertoglio
  • • MUDZilla -- commercial server base J C Lawrence
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Greg Munt
• • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Mike Sellers
  • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Richard Woolcock
  • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Mike Sellers
    • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Richard Woolcock
      • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Greg Munt
        • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Holly Sommer
          • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Richard Woolcock
          • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Andrew C.M. McClintock
          • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Niklas Elmqvist
            • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
              • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Adam Wiggins
                • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
                  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? francois@toubol.com
          • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Chris Gray
  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? J C Lawrence
  • • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Nathan F Yospe
    • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Travis S. Casey
    • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? T. Alexander Popiel
    • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Bruce Mitchener
  • Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development? Chris Gray
• Mud websites Greg Munt
• • Mud websites Robert Woods
  • • Mud websites Koster, Raph
    • Mud websites Matt Chatterley
  • Mud websites Koster, Raph
  • • Mud websites J C Lawrence
    • • Mud websites John Bertoglio
      • • Mud websites Adam Wiggins
  • Mud websites Holly Sommer
  • • Mud websites Matt Chatterley
  • Mud websites Travis S. Casey
  • • Mud websites Matt Chatterley
    • • Mud websites Travis S. Casey
  • Mud websites Vadim Tkachenko
  • mud websites Scatter
  • • mud websites Oliver Jowett
    • • mud websites Scatter
      • • mud websites Oliver Jowett
        • mud websites J C Lawrence
        • • mud websites Scatter
    • mud websites J C Lawrence
    • • mud websites Scatter
  • Mud websites Chris Gray
  • • Mud websites J C Lawrence
  • Mud websites Matt Chatterley
  • Mud websites J C Lawrence
  • Mud websites Chris Gray
  • • Mud websites Matt Chatterley
  • Mud websites Chris Gray
• LDAP server as ... Vadim Tkachenko
• • LDAP server as ... J C Lawrence
• Nested Coordinate spaces. Elis Pomales
• • Nested Coordinate spaces. J C Lawrence
  • • Nested Coordinate spaces. Nathan F Yospe
    • • Nested Coordinate spaces. Elis Pomales
      • • Nested Coordinate spaces. Michael Hohensee
        • Nested Coordinate spaces. J C Lawrence
• Telepathy Rules Lawrence W. Homer
• Off topic! But please help Marian Griffith
• • Off topic! But please help John Bertoglio
  • • Off topic! But please help Jon A. Lambert
    • • Off topic! But please help John Bertoglio
  • Off topic! But please help Holly Sommer
• META: Quoting, again. J C Lawrence
• Re:Telepathy Rules Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
• • Re:Telepathy Rules Matt Chatterley
• Databases: was skill system jacob langthorn
• • Databases: was skill system Mike Sellers
  • • Databases: was skill system John Bertoglio
    • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
  • Databases: was skill system T. Alexander Popiel
  • • Databases: was skill system s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
    • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
      • • Databases: was skill system s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
        • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
        • Databases: was skill system John Bertoglio
      • Databases: was skill system Jon A. Lambert
      • • Databases: was skill system Adam J. Thornton
        • • Databases: was skill system Jon A. Lambert
          • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
            • • Databases: was skill system Jon A. Lambert
              • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
                • • Databases: was skill system Jon A. Lambert
                  • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
        • Databases: was skill system s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
        • • Databases: was skill system jacob langthorn
          • Databases: was skill system ##Make Nylander
          • Databases: was skill system Jon A. Lambert
          • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
          • • Databases: was skill system s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
        • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
      • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
      • • Databases: was skill system s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
        • • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
    • Databases: was skill system J C Lawrence
    • • Databases: was skill system T. Alexander Popiel
• Mud-time vs real-time (was skill system) Mike Sellers
• • Mud-time vs real-time (was skill system) T. Alexander Popiel
  • Mud-time vs real-time (was skill system) Richard Woolcock
  • • Mud-time vs real-time (was skill system) Katrina McClelan
• darkness/visibility Oliver Jowett
• • darkness/visibility Chris Gray
  • • darkness/visibility Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
    • • darkness/visibility Travis S. Casey
      • darkness/visibility Dr. Cat
    • darkness/visibility Benjamin D. Wiechel
    • • darkness/visibility Andrew C.M. McClintock
    • darkness/visibility Adam Wiggins
    • • darkness/visibility oliver@jowett.manawatu.planet.co.nz
      • darkness/visibility Richard Woolcock
      • • darkness/visibility T. Alexander Popiel
    • darkness/visibility J C Lawrence
  • darkness/visibility Chris Gray
  • • darkness/visibility Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
    • darkness/visibility Adam Wiggins
    • darkness/visibility Vadim Tkachenko
  • darkness/visibility Holly Sommer
  • • darkness/visibility Benjamin D. Wiechel
    • darkness/visibility Richard Woolcock
  • darkness/visibility Chris Gray
  • • darkness/visibility Ben Greear
    • • darkness/visibility Katrina McClelan
  • darkness/visibility J C Lawrence
  • darkness/visibility Chris Gray
  • • darkness/visibility J C Lawrence
    • • darkness/visibility Travis S. Casey
      • • darkness/visibility J C Lawrence
        • • darkness/visibility Travis S. Casey
          • • darkness/visibility J C Lawrence
            • • darkness/visibility Travis S. Casey
  • darkness/visibility Chris Gray
• Off topic! ... J C Lawrence
• Mailing List Archives Elis Pomales
• • Mailing List Archives J C Lawrence
• [Fwd: Temporality and user actions in MUDs] Richard Woolcock
• PC 99 standard In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Mike Sellers
• • PC 99 standard In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Jo Dillon
  • • PC 99 standard In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Richard Woolcock
    • • PC 99 standard In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Adam Wiggins
• Away on a trip Bryce
• META: The web is a live again! J C Lawrence
• Away on a trip Bryce
• Technical C/C++ coding question Ben Greear
• • Technical C/C++ coding question Katrina McClelan
  • • Technical C/C++ coding question J C Lawrence
    • • Technical C/C++ coding question Jon Leonard
      • • Technical C/C++ coding question Katrina McClelan
        • • Technical C/C++ coding question Jon Leonard
          • • Technical C/C++ coding question Katrina McClelan
            • Technical C/C++ coding question Ben Greear
            • Technical C/C++ coding question Shawn Halpenny
            • • Technical C/C++ coding question Shawn Halpenny
              • Technical C/C++ coding question J C Lawrence
  • Technical C/C++ coding question Finn Arne Gangstad
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mu Jon A. Lambert
• stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Dan Shiovitz
• • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Richard Woolcock
  • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Ben Greear
    • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Katrina McClelan
      • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Richard Woolcock
        • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Katrina McClelan
          • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) J C Lawrence
            • • stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulletin...) Katrina McClelan
• stuff that makes me leave Richard Woolcock
• • stuff that makes me leave Mike Sellers
  • stuff that makes me leave Robert Woods
  • stuff that makes me leave Matt Chatterley
• (fwd) Temporality and user actions in MUDs J C Lawrence
• Analysis and specification Shawn Halpenny
• OT: Announcement s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• • OT: Announcement Nathan F Yospe
  • OT: Announcement Chris Gray
  • • OT: Announcement s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
  • OT: Announcement Chris Gray
  • • OT: Announcement s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• Analysis and specification Shawn Halpenny
• • Analysis and specification Ben Greear
• The great crusade.... J C Lawrence
• • The great crusade.... Koster, Raph
  • • The great crusade.... Jon A. Lambert
    • The great crusade.... J C Lawrence
    • • The great crusade.... Mike Sellers
    • The great crusade.... brandon
    • • The great crusade.... Mike Sellers
      • • The great crusade.... J C Lawrence
  • The great crusade.... Koster, Raph
  • • The great crusade.... S. Patrick Gallaty
    • • The great crusade.... J C Lawrence
  • The great crusade.... J C Lawrence
• User Input Parser, was darkness/visibility Richard Woolcock
• what's fun? Mike Sellers
• • what's fun? J C Lawrence
  • what's fun? Richard Bartle
  • • what's fun? J C Lawrence
  • what's fun? Richard Bartle
• Is worse better? J C Lawrence
• • Is worse better? Katrina McClelan
  • • Is worse better? Jon A. Lambert
    • • Is worse better? Ben Greear
      • • Is worse better? Katrina McClelan
        • Is worse better? Vadim Tkachenko
• Mozilla: unity of interface J C Lawrence
• • Mozilla: unity of interface John Bertoglio
• OT:Is worse better? Nathan F Yospe
• • OT:Is worse better? Jon A. Lambert
• [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000] Richard Woolcock
• • [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000] Chris Gray
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words o Jon A. Lambert
• • Analysis and specification - the dirty words o s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• ADMIN: OS Wars J C Lawrence
• MySQL scalability J C Lawrence
• Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Larry Homer
• • Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Dan Shiovitz
  • • Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Richard Woolcock
    • • Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Dan Shiovitz
      • • Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Adam Wiggins
• stuff that makes me leave (was In game bulleti Matt Chatterley
• Prescience Rules? Joel Kelso
• OT: Ack! Adam Wiggins
• Natural Language Parsing (Was: darkness/visibility) s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• • Natural Language Parsing (Was: darkness/visibility) Adam J. Thornton
• bytecode results Chris Gray
• Prescience Rules? Richard Woolcock
• • Prescience Rules? Vadim Tkachenko
  • • Prescience Rules? Richard Woolcock
    • • Prescience Rules? Nathan F Yospe
• Biting the hand that feeds you J C Lawrence
• RI Adventure Contest (fwd) Holly Sommer
• WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
• • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun John Bertoglio
        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Spangler, Jason
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Holly Sommer
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis S. Casey
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis Casey
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Robert Woods
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun quzah
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Till Eulenspiegel
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Scatter
            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Ling
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
• WIRED: One brave soul's UO diary. J C Lawrence
• Tron meets MUD meets the arcades. Detonation expected. J C Lawrence
• WWW/INN/news systems (Was: mud websites) Petri Virkkula
• Prescience Rules? Scatter
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
• • Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
• mud-related event: Dr. K... Brandon J. Rickman
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• Multi-Server games Ben Greear
• • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
  • • Multi-Server games MH
    • • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
      • • Multi-Server games MH
        • Multi-Server games J C Lawrence
      • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
      • • Multi-Server games Ben Greear
        • • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
          • • Multi-Server games Koster, Raph
• ScryMUD: Source release, version 1.4 Ben Greear
• (fwd) Dantom's Universal Network Game (DUNG) Nathan Fenenga Yospe
• I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch J C Lawrence
• • I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• Thread implementations... J C Lawrence
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Chris Gray
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words o J C Lawrence
• • Analysis and specification - the dirty words o Jon A. Lambert
• Quotes from Marcus Ranum J C Lawrence
• • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Nathan F Yospe
  • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Chris Gray
• WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• the why of online worlds Mike Sellers
• • the why of online worlds Ben Greear
• A variation on persistent store techniques with notes on distributed processing support J C Lawrence
• You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
• • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Dr. Cat
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Ling
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
  • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
    • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
      • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Vadim Tkachenko
        • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis Casey
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Chris Gray
• RP definitional structure J C Lawrence
• Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
• • Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
  • Combat intelligence Ling
  • • Combat intelligence Niklas Elmqvist
• the why of online worlds. cat
• Rules of the game: How Long Till You Die J C Lawrence
• Rules of the Game: You don't always live twice Or... Take my life, Please J C Lawrence
• roleplaying farmers? Mike L Kesl
• • roleplaying farmers? J C Lawrence
• Sugarscape: A-Life variation with economic interests J C Lawrence
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Chris Gray
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Vadim Tkachenko