June 1998

• Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
• • Playerkilling website John Bertoglio
  • • Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
    • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
  • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
• (fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• • (fwd) Multiple currencies Matt Chatterley
• Exploring the guild phenomena J C Lawrence
• Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
• • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
  • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
    • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Mike Sellers
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Richard Woolcock
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies T. Alexander Popiel
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
• • Administrative Meddling Mike Sellers
  • • Administrative Meddling Matthew R. Sheahan
    • • Administrative Meddling Mike Sellers
    • Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
      On 4 Jun 98, Mike Sellers wrote:
      > At 12:12 AM 6/4/98 +00-05, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
      > >>: It seems to be a commonly held notion here that administrators
      > >>should : not interfere, help or otherwise annoy players. Or that all
      > >>interference : or annoyances must be conducted with equality or
      > >>fairness.
      > >>...
      > >I merely question is what that game is and why does it entail
      > >supervision and/or non-interference of administration. I do not see
      > >the inherent problems with an in-game administrator creating a 99th
      > >level wizard who shows up and sets up a shop doles out some magical
      > >equipment to a few characters, quests a few characters, enspells a few
      > >characters, etc. Hmm, this causes game imbalance and unfairness. Why?
      > > Because the MUD assumes the quest solving, kill-power and equipment
      > >collection are THE game.
      >
      > I disagree. There is a complex and potentially perilous relationship
      > between any player character and overt admin-character (which is what
      > you're talking about). Some PCs will avoid the AC, some will fawn all over
      > him or her, some will do everything they can to frustrate the AC or those
      > who seem to be in the AC's favor -- even if the AC has not snubbed them in
      > any way. Then too, the human behind the AC *will* have preferences in PCs;
      > we all like some people better than others. Sometimes the AC will show
      > conscious favoritism, sometimes it will be unconscious, and sometimes it
      > not be there but the PCs will perceive it anyway. At this level, the game
      > will quickly turn from one of monster/PC killing laced with social
      > interaction between players to one of bragging about getting the best
      > treatment from the AC or whining about someone else seeming to get the
      > same. If you think admins burn out fast now, you can imagine how wearing
      > all this would become.
      >
      >
      > Then there is the problem of the AC's player's ego. Ego-bloat is, I think,
      > one of the largest unspoken personal and professional problems in mud
      > administration, and it leads to many other better-known ones. Adulation is
      > poison, and creating an in-play AC is like feeding the admin candy coated
      > arsenic.
      >
      
      There is some confusion here and it's probably my fault in the order
      of my rambling. :)
      
      Later in my post I said:
      
      :: Note in my other posts, I favor hidden/invisible administration.
      :: None know who exactly the in-game administrators are. They could
      :: be playing any PC, any creature, any NPC at any given moment.
      :: Subtleness and in-game believability is key.
      
      and
      
      :: I do agree with the no visible admin concept. But rules against
      :: arbitrary influence to spice up a game and to influence outcomes
      :: for the good of the game (invisibly and indirect of course) seem
      :: to tie administration hands needlessly.
      
      The admin identity issue is a key one as it was for Habitat. The
      Habitat papers were written by an administrator "playing" the game,
      whose activity was not recognized as such. He was one of many
      such roving hidden admins.
      
      
      > > If the primary game goals were to build the
      > >biggest castle, make landfall on Alpha Centauri, collect all the black
      > >and white marbles, attract the most worshippers, build a transmud
      > >rail-line or aquire a monopoly in bread-baking does the above
      > >interference have any effect at all on the game?
      >
      > Yes, it would still have all sorts of repurcussions, as above. And of
      > course, a game like this would end quickly: just as the Habitat folks found
      > out with their early treasure hunts, you cannot create goals that are
      > 'winnable' only by one person in a persistent-world game. Goals that you
      > are certain will take weeks or months to accomplish will be completed in
      > hours or days, and meanwhile, you're alienating 99% of your player base in
      > favor of one individual.
      >
      
      All these goals are side-effects of simulation systems. These are
      not necessarily single-winner specific goals. There is no direct or
      implied reward. Whether a player has achieved a particular goal
      is only in his/her own mind. This is very different from running a
      Treasure Hunt which is just a form of one-shot quest. None of the
      above are quests, they are analog possibilities which contain
      short-term to long-term goals. There is no "game over".
      
      My "collect all black and white marbles" may have been misleading.
      This could be a player's short term goal. Why this goal would be
      chosen by a player at a given time is driven by a particular need.
      It's more likely it would be "as many as needed" rather than "all"
      which may well be an impossibilty. And I don't assume there's any
      competition for such a goal, though it is possible.
      
      I'm particularly railing against a Zork/Myst like quests. It's not
      that I don't enjoy them, I do very much. The problem I see is when
      such a game becomes a multiplayer one, this game design becomes
      horribly flawed because it introduces the Admin as referee and a
      whole host of rules specifically designed to restrict player
      interaction and communication.
      
      Now the Treasure hunt does differs from the Zork-like model because
      it is a dynamic one-shot quest and quite usable as administrative
      meddling to liven role-play interest. I see this as being as much
      player run as anything. I see the primary essence of "questiness" as
      a by-product of running simulations and role-play. The
      puzzle-solver appeal could well be encapsulated in the role of
      resource manager solving the simulation (economic/ecological). But
      since such a thing is dynamic with introduction of random events, I
      don't see administration meddling as problematic or detectable as in
      the the traditional quest game.
      
      > >Rules for the HnS or the Quest game get in the way of the social
      > >aspect of mud games. For example: Equipment restrictions, PK rules,
      > >Quest solutions and more importantly having players or administrators
      > >play near-omnipotent beings. Yes I favor believe-ability realism
      > >also, but running a quest and not being able to relate my exploits
      > >seems a great flaw in some games. What's the purpose of recoding Zork
      > >to be multiplayer? ;)
      >
      > Admittedly, the kill-the-monster, get-the-treasure, solve-the-puzzle form
      > of mud-play is still, after all these years, pretty primitive. Some games
      > have made progress beyond this by placing additional control of the world
      > in the *player's* hands. Putting this back in the hands of an
      > admin-character is taking several large steps backward.
      >
      
      But you see game control here as a fixed pie. If you allow
      additional administrative influence and control, it does not mean you
      are taking control away from players. I say nothing specific here
      about additional player control, but it has been a key point in most
      of my posts here.
      
      > >Important social/cultural positions are also awarded based on success
      > >in these wholly unrelated games' goals. How does one become a king in
      > >a typical mud? By solving all the quests, attaining the highest
      > >level, killing all who object, by player acclaim (voting)?
      >
      >
      > Does any PC really _want_ to be king -- sit around the throne room
      > listening to various complaints and making in-game administrative decisions
      > all day? I don't think so.
      
      I disagree. You stress the mundane aspects of being a king.
      Traditional muds do not stress the mundane aspects of being a cleric
      thieve or magic-user. Why would I do so for a king? Also this
      sitting around or "idling" issue is a peculiar bias of HnS-only
      gaming. Absence of physical or locational motion somehow means
      there's no game being played. Role-play does not require this,
      neither do most of my favorite simulation games. I think its quite a
      popular form of game.
      
      > This might be a good place for an admin, as
      > they are powerful but both bound and relatively unapproachable -- quasi NPC
      > status at least. OTOH if people *do* want this, make them get it the
      > old-fashioned way. Institute a complex familial hierarchy, and have the
      > royal members start jostling with one another. That in itself could be a
      > great game for players so inclined (and the rest could go kill monsters and
      > drown their sorrows in the local taverns :-) ).
      >
      
      Exactly. I have mentioned player multi-charring before but not here.
      But I was looking at administrator influences on mud games.
      
      > >I assume omnipotent individuals are interested in running a game and
      > >will interfere (in a believable fashion) to further the interests of
      > >that game.
      >
      > That's a huge and untenable assumption.
      
      Its the only possible or practical assumption. The whole foundation
      and concept of FRPGs rests upon it.
      
      > It makes no allowance for human
      > personality (the admin's) or human perversity (the players'). In the early
      > days of M59, I crafted the "Prime Directive" strategy of admin
      > non-interference. It was difficult to enforce with some admins who just
      > insisted in sticking their noses in, always for "the good of the game." In
      > nearly every instance, the consequences spun out of control, well beyond
      > what they imagined would happen. All of our biggest PR headaches came from
      > admins "just trying to help" in the game.
      >
      
      What are administrators used for if there is a non-interference rule?
      Are you talking about a technical role, like server maintenance?
      
      > >Prevention of interference makes no sense at all. It goes
      > >without saying that administrators acting like mad power-tripping
      > >children are no fun to play with in any sort of game.
      >
      > True. Unfortunately, even if you manage to find the rare admins who
      > *won't* act this way, they *will* be loudly accused of acting this way by
      > some of the players. This alone will perturb the play of the game.
      >
      
      I don't think this is a rare trait at all. The only way I could see
      such individuals as rare was if I were randomly picking 14-25
      year olds off the street. Also the high-visibility issue is
      assumed. Perhaps thats a big problem with the nature of some
      styles of MUD. The notoriety as reward might well attract such
      individuals.
      
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                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Spangler, Jason
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Holly Sommer
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis S. Casey
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis Casey
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Robert Woods
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun quzah
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Till Eulenspiegel
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Scatter
            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Ling
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
• WIRED: One brave soul's UO diary. J C Lawrence
• Tron meets MUD meets the arcades. Detonation expected. J C Lawrence
• WWW/INN/news systems (Was: mud websites) Petri Virkkula
• Prescience Rules? Scatter
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
• • Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
• mud-related event: Dr. K... Brandon J. Rickman
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• Multi-Server games Ben Greear
• • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
  • • Multi-Server games MH
    • • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
      • • Multi-Server games MH
        • Multi-Server games J C Lawrence
      • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
      • • Multi-Server games Ben Greear
        • • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
          • • Multi-Server games Koster, Raph
• ScryMUD: Source release, version 1.4 Ben Greear
• (fwd) Dantom's Universal Network Game (DUNG) Nathan Fenenga Yospe
• I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch J C Lawrence
• • I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• Thread implementations... J C Lawrence
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Chris Gray
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words o J C Lawrence
• • Analysis and specification - the dirty words o Jon A. Lambert
• Quotes from Marcus Ranum J C Lawrence
• • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Nathan F Yospe
  • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Chris Gray
• WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• the why of online worlds Mike Sellers
• • the why of online worlds Ben Greear
• A variation on persistent store techniques with notes on distributed processing support J C Lawrence
• You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
• • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Dr. Cat
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Ling
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
  • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
    • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
      • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Vadim Tkachenko
        • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis Casey
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Chris Gray
• RP definitional structure J C Lawrence
• Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
• • Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
  • Combat intelligence Ling
  • • Combat intelligence Niklas Elmqvist
• the why of online worlds. cat
• Rules of the game: How Long Till You Die J C Lawrence
• Rules of the Game: You don't always live twice Or... Take my life, Please J C Lawrence
• roleplaying farmers? Mike L Kesl
• • roleplaying farmers? J C Lawrence
• Sugarscape: A-Life variation with economic interests J C Lawrence
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Chris Gray
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Vadim Tkachenko