June 1998

• Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
• • Playerkilling website John Bertoglio
  • • Playerkilling website Koster, Raph
    • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
  • Playerkilling website J C Lawrence
• (fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• • (fwd) Multiple currencies Matt Chatterley
• Exploring the guild phenomena J C Lawrence
• Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
• • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
  • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
    • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Mike Sellers
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies Richard Woolcock
      • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
      • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies T. Alexander Popiel
        • • Re:(fwd) Multiple currencies J C Lawrence
• Administrative Meddling Jon A. Lambert
  Xposted here from r.g.m.a. .. I wrote the following:
  
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  On 1 Jun 98 06:48:57 GMT, John Adelsberger said:
  >
  >Jon A. Lambert <jlsysinc@nospam.ix.netcom.com> wrote:
  >
  >: It seems to be a commonly held notion here that administrators
  >should : not interfere, help or otherwise annoy players. Or that all
  >interference : or annoyances must be conducted with equality or
  >fairness.
  >
  >In order to _have_ a game, you have to prevent omnipotent individuals
  >from circumventing the rules. If you want a game whose real purpose
  >is social interaction, fine, but then why are you writing new code to
  >replace irc?:)
  >
  
  Yes but those omnipotent ones set the rules, change the rules and are
  usually charged with the enforcement. Nothing wrong with this BTW.
  If social interaction wasn't a purpose of mudding there would be no
  player demand for IRC capability within a mud. Most muds are a
  superset of IRC funtionality in order to "run" a game.
  
  I merely question is what that game is and why does it entail
  supervision and/or non-interference of administration. I do not see
  the inherent problems with an in-game administrator creating a 99th
  level wizard who shows up and sets up a shop doles out some magical
  equipment to a few characters, quests a few characters, enspells a few
  characters, etc. Hmm, this causes game imbalance and unfairness. Why?
  Because the MUD assumes the quest solving, kill-power and equipment
  collection are THE game. If the primary game goals were to build the
  biggest castle, make landfall on Alpha Centauri, collect all the black
  and white marbles, attract the most worshippers, build a transmud
  rail-line or aquire a monopoly in bread-baking does the above
  interference have any effect at all on the game?
  
  Rules for the HnS or the Quest game get in the way of the social
  aspect of mud games. For example: Equipment restrictions, PK rules,
  Quest solutions and more importantly having players or administrators
  play near-omnipotent beings. Yes I favor believe-ability realism
  also, but running a quest and not being able to relate my exploits
  seems a great flaw in some games. What's the purpose of recoding Zork
  to be multiplayer? ;)
  
  Important social/cultural positions are also awarded based on success
  in these wholly unrelated games' goals. How does one become a king in
  a typical mud? By solving all the quests, attaining the highest
  level, killing all who object, by player acclaim (voting)?
  
  >: Is this not a product of a game design? More specfically, the
  >goals : of players to achieve objectives defined by the system.
  >
  >It is a product of most game designs, including MUSHes, which are
  >more like what you're describing as an alternative. There is a grand
  >total of _one_ gametype that doesn't lead to such restrictions, and
  >that IS the Corewars/Wizwars kind of scenario. Even those games can
  >need impartial admins to perform trusted tasks such as site
  >administration, although said admins may not have characters in-game
  >at all.
  
  I would make a strong distinction between a "server maintenance" admin
  and a in-game administrator. It is certainly possible to wear many
  hats. Diplomacy(TM) certainly doesn't require any referee although one
  is usually used to setup the game and speed it along. MPGNet's
  Operation Market Garden would pose no problems for playing server
  administrators. Now when you get into the area of role-playing, there
  seems to be some objection on MUDs (capitalized) to administrator
  intereference, although it occurs with regular frequency in the paper
  & pencil counterparts.
  
  >: No I'm lieing. I wasn't suprised, but I think it's a narrow mindset
  > : that neglects other aspects of muds or virtual worlds that are far
  >: more interesting such as politics, diplomacy, economics, and social
  >: interaction which just aren't "fair".
  >
  >Politics, etc make piss-poor game subjects if certain involved
  >individuals are omnipotent and others powerless; the omnipotent
  >individuals face no challenge in forcing whatever they want on
  >everyone else, and the powerless individuals have no reason
  >whatsoever to play; the middlegrounders, if any, are left to prey on
  >each other, but only unless and until one of the omnipotent ones
  >comes down from on high to wield his unstoppable force.
  
  Doesn't this sound like most HnS muds to you. Apply a few simple
  tweaks like unrestricted PK, permadeath and then assume the power
  curve of a typical game (level 30 kills level 1 always, level 1 has
  zero chance of killing level 30). Now the adminstration cannot play
  or interfere for some odd reason.
  
  I assume omnipotent individuals are interested in running a game and
  will interfere (in a believable fashion) to further the interests of
  that game. Prevention of interference makes no sense at all. It goes
  without saying that administrators acting like mad power-tripping
  children are no fun to play with in any sort of game.
  
  >This, of course, leaves many possible game settings in which such
  >elements are fun and enjoyable for many people; personally, I hate
  >political games with a passion, because invariably they resemble real
  >life _too_ much; if I wanted to kiss ass, bribe people, and so forth,
  >I wouldn't need a game in which to do it:-)
  
  Then again some people enjoy these high-stakes games, since the
  real-life placation of some user-group manager (kiss-ass) and the
  negotiation of specifications with users (bribery) is so god-damn
  mundane. Flattering a virtual-world king in order to avoid being
  thrown to the lions (kiss-ass) and negotiating with a troll over
  bridge toll with empty pockets (bribery) form much of the essence and
  thrill of low-to-high fantasy. No everything IS politics, including
  befriending that king and avoiding that troll. Game mechanisms just
  suck in these areas.
  
  >: In fact, the resources of
  >: in-game friendship and social interaction is discouraged by many of
  >the : current notions of cheating for the sake of that "other" game.
  >You : know, the old d&d/nethack/moria/rogue thing. :)
  >
  >The mud I play doesn't discourage such things at all, but it does
  >have a real fairness problem(I say problem because the game has
  >amongst its many unstated goals that no one group ever truly dominate
  >it.) Basically, all the sociopathic dorks congregate in one set of
  >organizations and spend hours every day honing their pking skills on
  >anyone they can find, heedless of their own lives, and then team up
  >to kill anyone they feel like killing. The proper response, of
  >course, is for the admins to say 'we don't care about proof; we've
  >had 50 complaints about you in the last 3 months, and we refuse to
  >believe they're all lying to us. Adios.' They won't do it. Oh
  >well...
  
  Note in my other posts, I favor hidden/invisible administration. None
  know who exactly the in-game administrators are. They could be
  playing any PC, any creature, any NPC at any given moment. Subtleness
  and in-game believability is key.
  
  I think we share the same goals as far as game-balance. No it
  wouldn't be a good or fun thing for a single organization to dominate
  your mud or mine either. The situation begs for administrative
  influence including that which would be outside the rules in order to
  bring the desired traits of the game around into something enjoyable
  and playable. Don't forget the game becomes less enjoyable for many
  of the power wielders after a point since the challenge is pretty much
  gone.
  
  Without any other power systems in place, one must resort to brute
  force involvement. Now if you had other game systems in place, player
  kings could issue outlaw decrees and wield armies to crush this
  powerful guild.
  
  >
  >One game that _would_ interest me(I'm working on a version, sorta,
  >along with my other half-dozen projects, which number I keep mainly
  >because it keeps me moving even when I get sick of one temporarily:)
  >would be similar to the setting described by Mr. Lawrence, minus the
  >complete recording of history. This sort of game might have no
  >VISIBLE impartial admins, but it would most certainly need admins
  >nevertheless, and cheating would be a _bigger_ problem, rather than a
  >smaller problem(consider: on a typical h&s, I give you a 'sword of
  >slaying.' On a deity vs deity, I give you code I've devised based on
  >knowledge of the internals of the system that nobody else has. The
  >former is annoying but obvious; the latter ruins the game for
  >everyone.)
  >
  
  JC Lawrence's game did remind me of the WizWars type in many ways, but
  less so as he's refined it over time. I do agree with the no visible
  admin concept. But rules against arbitrary influence to spice up a
  game and to influence outcomes for the good of the game (invisibly and
  indirect of course) seem to tie administration hands needlessly.
  
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• • In game bulletin boards vs. Web based. Koster, Raph
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• Telepathy Rules Lawrence W. Homer
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• Mozilla: unity of interface J C Lawrence
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• OT:Is worse better? Nathan F Yospe
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• [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000] Richard Woolcock
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• Analysis and specification - the dirty words o Jon A. Lambert
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• ADMIN: OS Wars J C Lawrence
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• Prescience Rules? [Previously submitted under wrong thread :( ] Larry Homer
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• Prescience Rules? Joel Kelso
• OT: Ack! Adam Wiggins
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• Biting the hand that feeds you J C Lawrence
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                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
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                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
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                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
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                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
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                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Spangler, Jason
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Holly Sommer
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis S. Casey
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Travis Casey
                                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Robert Woods
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matthew R. Sheahan
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun quzah
                                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Till Eulenspiegel
                                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
                                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Nathan F Yospe
                          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Mike Sellers
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dr. Cat
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Joel Kelso
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                        • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                        • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
                            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Maddy
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun CJones@aagis.com
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Adam Wiggins
                      • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Marian Griffith
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun S. Patrick Gallaty
                      • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Koster, Raph
                    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Caliban Tiresias Darklock
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
                  • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Michael.Willey@abnamro.com
                    • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Scatter
            • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
          • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
            • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
                • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Ling
                  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
                • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Matt Chatterley
              • • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Damion Schubert
    • WIRED: Kilers have more fun J C Lawrence
  • WIRED: Kilers have more fun Jon A. Lambert
• WIRED: One brave soul's UO diary. J C Lawrence
• Tron meets MUD meets the arcades. Detonation expected. J C Lawrence
• WWW/INN/news systems (Was: mud websites) Petri Virkkula
• Prescience Rules? Scatter
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Richard Woolcock
• • Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Dan Shiovitz
• mud-related event: Dr. K... Brandon J. Rickman
• Suggested theme, was WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• Multi-Server games Ben Greear
• • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
  • • Multi-Server games MH
    • • Multi-Server games Jo Dillon
      • • Multi-Server games MH
        • Multi-Server games J C Lawrence
      • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
      • • Multi-Server games Ben Greear
        • • Multi-Server games Vadim Tkachenko
          • • Multi-Server games Koster, Raph
• ScryMUD: Source release, version 1.4 Ben Greear
• (fwd) Dantom's Universal Network Game (DUNG) Nathan Fenenga Yospe
• I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch J C Lawrence
• • I/O Event Handling Under Linux by Richard Gooch s001gmu@nova.wright.edu
• Thread implementations... J C Lawrence
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Richard Woolcock
• Suggested theme Chris Gray
• Analysis and specification - the dirty words o J C Lawrence
• • Analysis and specification - the dirty words o Jon A. Lambert
• Quotes from Marcus Ranum J C Lawrence
• • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Nathan F Yospe
  • Quotes from Marcus Ranum Chris Gray
• WIRED: Kilers have more fun Chris Gray
• the why of online worlds Mike Sellers
• • the why of online worlds Ben Greear
• A variation on persistent store techniques with notes on distributed processing support J C Lawrence
• You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
• • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Dr. Cat
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Ling
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
  • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? J C Lawrence
    • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis S. Casey
      • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Vadim Tkachenko
        • • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Travis Casey
  • You think users won't number crunch and statistise your MUD? Chris Gray
• RP definitional structure J C Lawrence
• Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
• • Combat intelligence J C Lawrence
  • Combat intelligence Ling
  • • Combat intelligence Niklas Elmqvist
• the why of online worlds. cat
• Rules of the game: How Long Till You Die J C Lawrence
• Rules of the Game: You don't always live twice Or... Take my life, Please J C Lawrence
• roleplaying farmers? Mike L Kesl
• • roleplaying farmers? J C Lawrence
• Sugarscape: A-Life variation with economic interests J C Lawrence
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Chris Gray
• Embedded languages was Databases: was skill system Vadim Tkachenko