October 1997
- Carnage, scripting newbie guides Koster, Raph
- Carnage, scripting newbie guides Nathan Yospe
- Carnage, scripting newbie guides Chris Gray
- Carnage, scripting newbie guides ##Make Nylander
- Carnage, scripting newbie guides ##Make Nylander
- Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- 101 Spells Not Worth Memorizing clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- more classes (Usability and interface and who the Brian Price
- more classes (Usability and interface and who the Matt Chatterley
- more classes (Usability and interface and who the coder@ibm.net
- Stranger in a Strange Land (was Usability and interface and Maddy
- Tablets. Ola Fosheim Grøstad
- Stranger in a Strange Land (was Usability and interface clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- Usability and interface ... Marian Griffith
- Usability and interface ... Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Usability and interface ... Broly
- Usability and interface ... Caliban Tiresias Darklock
- Usability and interface ... Derrick Jones
- Usability and interface ... coder@ibm.net
- Usability and interface ... Derrick Jones
- Usability and interface ... coder@ibm.net
- Usability and interface ... coder@ibm.net
- Usability and interface ... Marian Griffith
- Turn-based Combat Jon A. Lambert
- Turn-based Combat Travis Casey
- Turn-based Combat John G.
- OT: I'm moving! coder@ibm.net
- (fwd) New mud release coder@ibm.net
- Riddles for games clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- Riddles for games Chris Gray
- Riddles for games coder@ibm.net
- The Trap Collection clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- Learning through failure Jon A. Lambert
- Learning through failure Maddy
- The Trap Collection - Volume II clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE FOR FANTASY ROLE-PLAYING GAMES clawrenc@cup.hp.com
- (fwd) New MUD software wanted? coder@ibm.net
- (fwd) New MUD software wanted? Felix A. Croes
- (fwd) New MUD software wanted? coder@ibm.net
- META: File attachments as list postings. coder@ibm.net
- More Riddles... Jon A. Lambert
- More Riddles... Jon A. Lambert
- multiple intelligences Brandon J. Rickman
- multiple intelligences Travis Casey
- multiple intelligences Brandon J. Rickman
- multiple intelligences S001GMU@nova.wright.edu
- multiple intelligences Travis S. Casey
- multiple intelligences coder@ibm.net
- OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Michael Hohensee
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- The Official T$R Book of Adventure Suggestions coder@ibm.net
- Mud governance Koster, Raph
- Mud governance Felix A. Croes
- Mud governance Mike Sellers
- Mud governance Travis Casey
- Mud governance coder@ibm.net
- Mud governance Mike Sellers
- Mud governance coder@ibm.net
- Mud governance S001GMU@nova.wright.edu
- Mud governance coder@ibm.net
- Mud governance Koster, Raph
- Mud governance coder@ibm.net
- OT: Usability and interface and who the hell is su Jon A. Lambert
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Marian Griffith
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Nathan Yospe
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Marian Griffith
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Sauron
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Marian Griffith
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Brandon J. Rickman
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Jon A. Lambert
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Adam Wiggins
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Derrick Jones
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Sauron
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Marian Griffith
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Marian Griffith
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Jon A. Lambert
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) coder@ibm.net
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Vadim Tkachenko
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Sauron
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Stephen Zepp
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Matt Chatterley
- Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface) Vadim Tkachenko
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Matt Chatterley wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Vadim Tkachenko wrote:
>
[snipped some]
And, every time you read my posts, please keep in mind that I'm looking
at MUDs as a _developer_, not as a player - my experience as a MUD
player is virtually zero (because, first of all, English is not my
native language, and I find them terribly boring and tiring, given the
amount of spam and speed of actions), but I've spent HUNDREDS, if not
thousands, of hours playing single-user RPGs - notably Eye of Beholder,
Ultima Underworld I & II.
Once again, all generalizations above, here and below are from the
coder's point of view.
> > Q: What is a difference between a monster and NPC?
> > A: None, except that NPC is apparently is able to talk and [pretend to]
> > express other sign of intelligence (which presumes a different level of
> > hostility, too).
>
> The difference here being one that is 'thematic' or 'definitional' rather
> than actual - some people group NPCs as monsters, others like me prefer to
> reserve 'monster' for its actual implications (relatively unintelligent
> creatures, or horrors which you care not to describe in detail, and so
> forth). It presumes a different sort of hostility rather than level - one
> that is less primal, and far more 'pre-meditated'.
>
> > Do you consider a dragon a monster or NPC? In according to fantasy
> > books, dragons are highly intelligent and can talk many languages...
>
> Aha. Good call; but to me this depends upon context. If you encounter a
> Dragon, and manage to communicate with it or it appears in a vaguely
> civil or 'human' light, it is an NPC. If it attacks you, ransacks a
> village, eats members of your party, torches your sheep, or so forth, it
> is a monster. To the public, it is terrifying, and falls instantly under
> the monster heading.
>
> > Q: What is a difference between a PC and NPC?
> > A: None, except that NPC is being controlled by the computer, and PC by
> > the player (which is not true in some MUDs when the player is offline).
>
> Yes; the difference can be summed up as "PCs (sometimes) have
> socket/network connections attached to them".
[offensive to the truck drivers]
What is a truck driver? A piece of ... between the steering wheels and
the driver's seat.
[offensive to the MUD players]
What is a MUD player? ... You continue...
> > Conclusion: NPC == PC == monster, to some extent.
>
> <g>
>
> Regards,
> -Matt Chatterley
> ICQ: 5580107
> "I shall never believe that God plays dice with the world." -Einstein
--
Still alive and smile stays on,
Vadim Tkachenko <VadimT@4CS.Com>
--
UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are
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